[sf e27] Express 27 and Integrated Electronics

Paul Deeds pauldeeds at gmail.com
Wed Sep 27 12:17:12 PDT 2006

Assuming integrated electronics provide an advantage, one reason not to
modify the rule is that 1) most boats have existing electronics that are
sufficient to be competitive under the current rules, and 2) $2000-3000 is a
considerable amount of money and ignores installation cost (either time or
money).

The only electronics we have ever used on Magic Bus are a 5 year old tack
tick compass and a handheld GPS for distance racing.  Total cost (as new
today, about $1200).  I don't know enough about the integrated systems to
say whether they would offer much advantage.  I suspect they wouldn't around
the buoys, but might help more in distance racing ...

I don't feel that strongly either way on the issue, but I would lean toward
leaving the rule as is ...

On 9/26/06, Tom Hintz <thintz at engenesis.com> wrote:
>
>
> It seems to me that that today, the archaic rule of non-integrate
> electronics
> is more costly than a simpler, integrated solution. While researching
> prices
> and options to replace our B&G system, it became apparent that integrated
> solutions are the standard today and it is becoming increasingly difficult
> to find single-function devices.
>
> Today, the premium on wireless instruments is far higher than a simple,
> wired but integrated system. It seems odd that we allow hi-tech wireless
> electronics, hi-tech lines and sail material of any type and cost, but do
> not allow generally available electronics.
>
> Overall, the cost of a new integrated electronics package is less than
> a set of sails, and will last many more years.
>
> Not that I would want to give up our new hi-tech sails, but if we disallow
> current generally available electronics, we should also disallow any sail
> and line materials developed in the last couple of decades;)
>
>     Complete Wired, Integrated System:    $2,245.90
>     Complete Dis-Integrated System:       $2,881.50
>     Complete Wireless, Integrated System: $3,270.00
>
> I don't see any reason that we should not vote to amened the class rules
> to allow integrated instruments system.
>
>
> To replace the existing dis-integrated electronics (adding apparent wind
> speed)
>   103AC      $579    SailComp Fluxgate compass
>   H1000 S2   $839    B&G Speed & Depth
>   ST290      $479    Raymarine Wind Speed/Direction
>   GPS37      $695    Furuno GPS Display
>   BBWGPS     $289.50 GPS Antenna
>             $2881.50 Total
>
> To install a complete integrated Nexus system would require:
>   NX2-SP3  $1,859.95 Nexus speed,depth,temp,wind,compass
>   NX2-GPS    $349.95 Nexus GPS transducer
>            $2,245.90 Total
>
> To install a complete integrated B&G system would require:
>   H1000-S4 $2,089    B&G speed, depth, temp, wind, compass, NEMA
>   E32026     $365    Raystar 125 GPS Antenna (NEMA)
>            $2,454    Total
>
> For those of us that have already spent the $1,400 on a TackTick
> Speed/Depth
> system, the components needed for Wind Speed/Direction and GPS:
>   T120       $800    Wind Transmitter
>   T122       $430    NEMA interface
>   T908       $450    GPS antenna
>   T909       $320    Compass
>            $2,000    Total
>
> For those that want to go all the way with a complete, integrated, new
> wireless
> TackTick:
>   T104     $2,500    Speed,Depth,Wind,NEMA
>   T908       $450    GPS antenna
>   T909       $320    Compass
>            $3,270    Total
>
>
>
> --
> Tom Hintz
> thintz at engenesis.com
> 303.717.0450
>
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