Myself,
I'd rather keep it simple, fast and low cost which is what attracted me to
the Express class.
Joe B.
-----Original Message-----
From: sf-express27-bounces at myfleet.org
[mailto:sf-express27-bounces at myfleet.org]On Behalf Of Paul Deeds
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:17 PM
To: Tom Hintz
Cc: sf-express27 at myfleet.org
Subject: Re: [sf e27] Express 27 and Integrated Electronics
Assuming integrated electronics provide an advantage, one reason not to
modify the rule is that 1) most boats have existing electronics that are
sufficient to be competitive under the current rules, and 2) $2000-3000 is a
considerable amount of money and ignores installation cost (either time or
money).
The only electronics we have ever used on Magic Bus are a 5 year old tack
tick compass and a handheld GPS for distance racing. Total cost (as new
today, about $1200). I don't know enough about the integrated systems to
say whether they would offer much advantage. I suspect they wouldn't around
the buoys, but might help more in distance racing ...
I don't feel that strongly either way on the issue, but I would lean toward
leaving the rule as is ...
On 9/26/06, Tom Hintz < <mailto:thintz at engenesis.com> thintz at engenesis.com>
wrote:
It seems to me that that today, the archaic rule of non-integrate
electronics
is more costly than a simpler, integrated solution. While researching prices
and options to replace our B&G system, it became apparent that integrated
solutions are the standard today and it is becoming increasingly difficult
to find single-function devices.
Today, the premium on wireless instruments is far higher than a simple,
wired but integrated system. It seems odd that we allow hi-tech wireless
electronics, hi-tech lines and sail material of any type and cost, but do
not allow generally available electronics.
Overall, the cost of a new integrated electronics package is less than
a set of sails, and will last many more years.
Not that I would want to give up our new hi-tech sails, but if we disallow
current generally available electronics, we should also disallow any sail
and line materials developed in the last couple of decades;)
Complete Wired, Integrated System: $2,245.90
Complete Dis-Integrated System: $2, 881.50
Complete Wireless, Integrated System: $3,270.00
I don't see any reason that we should not vote to amened the class rules
to allow integrated instruments system.
To replace the existing dis-integrated electronics (adding apparent wind
speed)
103AC $579 SailComp Fluxgate compass
H1000 S2 $839 B&G Speed & Depth
ST290 $479 Raymarine Wind Speed/Direction
GPS37 $695 Furuno GPS Display
BBWGPS $289.50 GPS Antenna
$2881.50 Total
To install a complete integrated Nexus system would require:
NX2-SP3 $1,859.95 Nexus speed,depth,temp,wind,compass
NX2-GPS $349.95 Nexus GPS transducer
$2, 245.90 Total
To install a complete integrated B&G system would require:
H1000-S4 $2,089 B&G speed, depth, temp, wind, compass, NEMA
E32026 $365 Raystar 125 GPS Antenna (NEMA)
$2,454 Total
For those of us that have already spent the $1,400 on a TackTick Speed/Depth
system, the components needed for Wind Speed/Direction and GPS:
T120 $800 Wind Transmitter
T122 $430 NEMA interface
T908 $450 GPS antenna
T909 $320 Compass
$2,000 Total
For those that want to go all the way with a complete, integrated, new
wireless
TackTick:
T104 $2,500 Speed,Depth,Wind,NEMA
T908 $450 GPS antenna
T909 $320 Compass
$3,270 Total
--
Tom Hintz
thintz at engenesis.com <mailto:thintz at engenesis.com>
303.717.0450
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