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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=994082203-28092006>Myself,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=994082203-28092006>I'd
rather keep it simple, fast and low cost which is what attracted me to the
Express class.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=994082203-28092006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=994082203-28092006>Joe
B.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
sf-express27-bounces@myfleet.org
[mailto:sf-express27-bounces@myfleet.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Paul
Deeds<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:17 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Tom
Hintz<BR><B>Cc:</B> sf-express27@myfleet.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [sf e27]
Express 27 and Integrated Electronics<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Assuming integrated
electronics provide an advantage, one reason not to modify the rule is that 1)
most boats have existing electronics that are sufficient to be competitive
under the current rules, and 2) $2000-3000 is a considerable amount of money
and ignores installation cost (either time or money). <BR><BR>The only
electronics we have ever used on Magic Bus are a 5 year old tack tick compass
and a handheld GPS for distance racing. Total cost (as new today, about
$1200). I don't know enough about the integrated systems to say whether
they would offer much advantage. I suspect they wouldn't around the
buoys, but might help more in distance racing ... <BR><BR>I don't feel that
strongly either way on the issue, but I would lean toward leaving the rule as
is ...<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 9/26/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>Tom
Hintz</B> <<A href="mailto:thintz@engenesis.com">
thintz@engenesis.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"><BR>It
seems to me that that today, the archaic rule of non-integrate electronics
<BR>is more costly than a simpler, integrated solution. While researching
prices<BR>and options to replace our B&G system, it became apparent that
integrated<BR>solutions are the standard today and it is becoming
increasingly difficult <BR>to find single-function devices.<BR><BR>Today,
the premium on wireless instruments is far higher than a simple,<BR>wired
but integrated system. It seems odd that we allow hi-tech
wireless<BR>electronics, hi-tech lines and sail material of any type and
cost, but do <BR>not allow generally available electronics.<BR><BR>Overall,
the cost of a new integrated electronics package is less than<BR>a set of
sails, and will last many more years.<BR><BR>Not that I would want to give
up our new hi-tech sails, but if we disallow <BR>current generally available
electronics, we should also disallow any sail<BR>and line materials
developed in the last couple of
decades;)<BR><BR> Complete Wired, Integrated
System: $2,245.90<BR> Complete
Dis-Integrated System: $2,
881.50<BR> Complete Wireless, Integrated System:
$3,270.00<BR><BR>I don't see any reason that we should not vote to amened
the class rules<BR>to allow integrated instruments system.<BR><BR><BR>To
replace the existing dis-integrated electronics (adding apparent wind speed)
<BR> 103AC $579 SailComp
Fluxgate compass<BR> H1000 S2
$839 B&G Speed &
Depth<BR> ST290 $479 Raymarine
Wind
Speed/Direction<BR> GPS37 $695 Furuno
GPS Display<BR> BBWGPS $289.50 GPS
Antenna
<BR> $2881.50
Total<BR><BR>To install a complete integrated Nexus system would
require:<BR> NX2-SP3 $1,859.95 Nexus
speed,depth,temp,wind,compass<BR> NX2-GPS $349.95
Nexus GPS
transducer<BR>
$2, 245.90 Total<BR><BR>To install a complete integrated B&G system
would require:<BR> H1000-S4 $2,089 B&G
speed, depth, temp, wind, compass,
NEMA<BR> E32026
$365 Raystar 125 GPS Antenna
(NEMA)<BR>
$2,454 Total <BR><BR>For those of us that have
already spent the $1,400 on a TackTick Speed/Depth<BR>system, the components
needed for Wind Speed/Direction and
GPS:<BR> T120
$800 Wind
Transmitter<BR> T122
$430 NEMA interface
<BR> T908
$450 GPS
antenna<BR> T909
$320 Compass<BR>
$2,000 Total<BR><BR>For those that want to go all the
way with a complete, integrated, new
wireless<BR>TackTick:<BR> T104
$2,500 Speed,Depth,Wind,NEMA
<BR> T908
$450 GPS
antenna<BR> T909
$320 Compass<BR>
$3,270 Total<BR><BR><BR><BR>--<BR>Tom Hintz<BR><A
href="mailto:thintz@engenesis.com">thintz@engenesis.com</A><BR>303.717.0450<BR><BR>_______________________________________________
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