Sorry for the late response, but 1203 is my boat and didn't even realize it
was being sailing, I agreed to let it be used a couple times on Tuesday
nights for team racing. Please throw out 1203 from race 3 where they hit
the RC boat, also feel free to throw out anyone except the owner when there
is contact (at least for my boat). If people are borrowing boats and not
doing all the can to avoid collisions that is unacceptable.
Andrew, please drop my gear off at my house. This is the 3rd time I have
had to ask you.
Looking to sell the boat if anyone is interested, please give me a shout.
holt.condon at gmail.com
1203
Holt
On 7/22/09, John H. Super <johnhsuper at joimail.com> wrote:
>> AhV15,
>> This is a common occurence and I am also tired of it. No 360s, no refinish,
> nada. I could easily settle the matter by hailing protest myself and
> protesting as the RC. Clearly, I would rather that the competitors do their
> own rules stuff, but....I am tired of having my boat part of the collision
> debie.
>> By the way, I asked TI Staff to order some new anchorsw as we are down to 3
> mushrooms. Both the
> V15s and TI use them. They bought them last year so I guess it is our turn
> to pay for them. Price should be about $80.
>> Super (old one)
>> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Sessions
> Sent: Jul 17, 2009 11:27 AM
> To: "Richards, Kevin T"
> Cc: Jim Barkow , cgray at alum.mit.edu, Avery Patton , Wes MacClaggan , Chad
> Gray , "John H. Super"
> Subject: Re: Scores from last night
>> Your Top 5 finish as Social Chair is deserved. Thanks for the warm chili
> and cold beers last night!
>> As everyone else on my boat would handily agree - I suck at rules
> situations. Clearly need to focus more at being in front of the peleton
> instead of the small battles.
>> Cheers,
> MCS
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Richards, Kevin T <ktrichar at ebmud.com>wrote:
>>> I also demand a top 5 finish whilst social chairing :)
>>>> Should we designate a ChUmp? Duty would be compatible with Team Racing
>> Chair... i.e. interest in rules / experience with interpretation. Note
>> section from Thursday Night SIs below... ChUmp may require some edits to
>> 11.4, but I would be happy to make a rounds every Thursday immediately
>> upon hitting the dock (when I'm there and designate another when I'm not) to
>> encourage follow-through...
>>>> 11 PROTESTS
>>>> *11.1* A competitor is required to *hail “Protest (sail number)”*immediately after an incident/foul if the competitor intends to file a
>> protest. This changes rule 61.1(a).
>>>> * *
>>>> *11.2* Upon finishing the race, the competitor (protestor) is *required
>> to inform the race committee and the offending boat (protester)* that
>> they intend to proceed with a protest. (State: “Boat #___ protests boat
>> #____.”) This changes rule 61.2.
>>>>>>>> *11.3* Protests will be conducted using the “*3 Minute Justice System.*”
>> This changes rule 63.
>>>>>>>> *11.4* Upon the completion of racing, each party to the protest selects
>> one competitor as a jury member. The two appointed jury members then
>> select a third competitor to complete the Protest Committee. This
>> changes rule 89.2(b). Each party is given three (3) minutes to present their
>> view of the incident and the applicable rules. After presenting, the
>> party may call one witness to further substantiate their position. After
>> both parties have presented their case, the Protest Committee will decide
>> the outcome and inform both the involved parties and the race committee.
>>>>>>>> *11.5* Competitors requesting *redress* may do so after all races of the
>> night are completed. The request should be made verbally to the race
>> committee. This changes rule 62. A Redress Hearing will be heard in the
>> same "3 minute" manner as a protest. If redress is granted, the requesting
>> boat will typically receive “average points” for the race in question. Average
>> points will be calculated by averaging the finishing positions for all other
>> races sailed that night and awarding that calculated position for the race
>> in question.
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Matthew Sessions [mailto:mcsessions at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 10:28 AM
>> *To:* Jim Barkow
>> *Cc:* cgray at alum.mit.edu; Avery Patton; Richards, Kevin T; Wes
>> MacClaggan; Chad Gray; John H. Super
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Scores from last night
>>>>>>>> Agree with Avery's assessment. She is now keeping me level-headed for
>> 15 hours+...I suck - let's move on.
>>>> MCS
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Jim Barkow <jim.barkow at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> I think the real question is- why were you going backwards??? you are
>>> supposed to go forward. Pointy end first. forward. even slowly will do...
>>>>>> If you have questions, just ask avery...
>>>>>>>>> yes fun night. love the 2's.
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Chad Gray <chad.gray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Unfortunately I agree with Avery procedurally. It was a pretty
>>>> egregious foul from my vantage point though. Even if you had been moving
>>>> backwards, not sure that’d make a difference in the P/S rule as long as you
>>>> weren’t reversing abruptly and preventing P from keeping clear (Super could
>>>> tell me I’m wrong here…)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As an aside, 1203 also nearly holed my hull (and my crew) at a leeward
>>>> gate rounding where they “lost control” and stuck their bow inside at the
>>>> last minute (they were clear astern). I think they spun, but super sketchy
>>>> maneuver.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Especially fun night last night. Steady breeze and super compressed
>>>> fleet made for some of the tightest racing in recent memory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chad
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>> *From:* Avery Patton [mailto:avery_patton at yahoo.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 9:57 AM
>>>> *To:* Matthew Sessions; Kevin Richards; Wes MacClaggan; Chad Gray; Jim
>>>> Barkow
>>>> *Cc:* John H. Super
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Scores from last night
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not that I have much say due to my 0% stake, but changing the scores
>>>> after the fact without doing an actual protest seems like a bad idea for
>>>> multiple reasons, including a) not everyone has the option/connections to
>>>> try to get scores changed the next day, and b) I'm sure plenty of people got
>>>> flagrantly fouled last night and also didn't have a hearing.
>>>>>>>> That was JV and Jonny Goldsberry btw.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>> *From:* Matthew Sessions <mcsessions at gmail.com>
>>>> *To:* Avery Patton <avery_patton at yahoo.com>; Kevin Richards <
>>>>ktrichar at ebmud.com>; Wes MacClaggan <wmaclaggan at gmail.com>; Chad Gray <
>>>>chadgray at yahoo.com>; Jim Barkow <jim.barkow at gmail.com>
>>>> *Cc:* John H. Super <johnhsuper at joimail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 9:40:51 AM
>>>> *Subject:* Scores from last night
>>>>>>>> Whoever got the scores posted so quick for last night - nice work. Very
>>>> prompt.
>>>>http://vanguard15.org/schedule/527>>>>>>>> A comment about Race # 3 (just to re-hash all the stupid F'in sailing I
>>>> did last night and won't be surprised if Avery sells her 0% stake in
>>>> 1629)...
>>>>>>>> We were flagrantly fouled at the finish by 1203. Not sure who the guys
>>>> were but we were making a second attempt at finishing the race when 1203
>>>> came flying in on port tack and literally slammed in between us on starboard
>>>> tack and the RC boat. It happened very quick but it was ridiculous. Chad
>>>> is copied here and witnessed the whole incident. 1203 felt we were going
>>>> backwards with no rights. Avery and I don't feel this is the case at all
>>>> and it was a shockingly simple P vs. S situation.
>>>>>>>> Note if a 1203 is tossed from race # 3 - this moves us up to 5th for the
>>>> night and Kevin down to 6th. I'm not interested being a di*k here to change
>>>> the scores but this was a really stupid move that should be addressed.
>>>>>>>> Nice work to Barkow last night and all the fleet for great sailing.
>>>> Cheers to John Super Sr. & Jr. for getting off 5 prompt races including the
>>>> two lappers - they made us earn it last night. Probably the most competive
>>>> night of the year.
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>> Matthew
>>>>>>>> Matthew Sessions
>>>>MCSessions at gmail.com>>>> 415-710-3851
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> Best,
>> Matthew
>>>> Matthew Sessions
>>MCSessions at gmail.com>> 415-710-3851
>>>>>>>> --
> Best,
> Matthew
>> Matthew Sessions
>MCSessions at gmail.com> 415-710-3851
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