Here's another look at the windward mark situation, courtesy of Jim.<br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br><span class="gmail_quote">From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Jim Barkow</b> <<a href="mailto:jim.barkow@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
jim.barkow@gmail.com
</a>><br>Date: Jul 28, 2006 4:03 PM<br>Subject: Duck, Duck...???<br>To: <a href="mailto:vanguard15@list.sailingsource.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">vanguard15@list.sailingsource.com
</a><br><br></span><div><span style="font-weight: bold;">Room to Duck?
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Guys- wanted to follow up on the discussion last night about boats coming into the starboard tack boats at the mark. <br>
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This issue in question: Room to tack vs Room to Duck? who has rights??? <br>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><b><font size="2">Rules
Questions:<br>
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<p><b><font size="2">Simple Answer: </font></b><font size="2">If there
is overlap from the Port Windward to Port Leeward boat, then the PW
boat has room to duck. If there is no overlap, then PL can call for
room to tack and tack, as long as there is enough time for the PW to
keep clear, by tacking or ducking. If the PL boat ducks without any
hail, they still have to give room for the PW to duck as well. </font><b><font size="2"> </font></b></p>
<p><font size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Logic: </span> (or lack there of)<br>
</font></p>
<p><font style="font-weight: bold;" size="2">18.2 (a) </font><font style="font-weight: bold;" size="2">Giving Room; Keeping Clear<br>
</font><span style="font-weight: bold;"> OVERLAPPED – BASIC RULE</span><br>
a. <font size="2">When boats are <span style="text-decoration: underline;">overlapped</span> the outside boat (PL) shall give the inside boat
(PW) room to round or pass the mark or <span style="text-decoration: underline;">obstruction</span>, and if the inside boat has
right of way the outside boat shall also keep clear. Other parts of rule 18
contain exceptions to this rule. </font><br>
<b><i><span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><br>
Then we look to the definition of Obstruction: <br>
</span></span></span></span>Obstruction</i></b> An object that a boat could not pass without changing course
substantially, if she were sailing directly towards it and one of her hull lengths from it.
An object that can be safely passed on only one side and an area so designated by the
sailing instructions are also obstructions. However, a boat racing is not an obstruction
to other boats unless they are required to keep clear of her <span style="font-weight: bold;">(as in the case of Port Starboard)</span>, give her room or, if rule 21
applies, avoid her.<br>
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<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">If no Overlap:</span><br>
- Rule 15 requires the boat that acquires right-of-way to give enough
space to the other boat to act promptly in a seamanlike way in the
prevailing conditions to keep clear. <br>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"></span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-weight: bold;">JB Editorial: </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">First of all, it's never
realistic to say 'stop coming in from port'. Our courses are short, and
getting shorter. We have 20 boats on the line and the starboard most
starting boat tends to hold onto the controlling position as long as
possible- especially because our wind has consistently been 5-7 degrees
farther south than normal. So inevitably, a first row starter on the
port end is almost always going to be 2 tacking the 1st beat. It's not
their fault- no one ever wants to get into that situation- it happens.
(It's also been strange that poor starts have been rewarded with the
chance to do an early duck of the starboard boats and get out the right
side early- I think Teddy and AJ lived off that last night...)<br>
<br><span style="font-weight: bold;">
Things to Sail by: </span><br>
1) avoid collisions<br>
2) standard Hails:<br>
"Room to Duck" - hailed by PW boat when overlapped and needing to Duck. Assumes there is overlap.<br>
"Starboard Boat- Tacking"- hailed by PL boat with ample time for PW to react<br>
"No- <span style="font-weight: bold;">NEED TO TACK!!!!</span>" -
hailed by PL boat, regardless of rights, to avoid collision due to
boats PW does not see, wind shift, etc... this hail trumps all.<br>
<br>
remember, these boats can tack in about 1-2 seconds, and less than a
boat length- on a average night. In this situation, in my opinion,
'slow tacks' are not a reasonable excuse. <br>
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2) be <span style="font-weight: bold;">vocal</span>, early and
often. If you see the situation happening, start
talking early. If you were fouled, be vocal and clear, never personal.
The person to blame usually becomes clear. If there are boat(s) above
you, you must hail early so everyone knows you have to tack. <br>
<br>
3) if you are starboard, think about '<span style="font-weight: bold;">defending your lane</span>' (not
hunting) to give yourself a little gap. What this means is, if you are
are close to layline, and you see a port boat approaching that is going
to tack short or lee bow you, bear off slightly- 5-10 degrees or so, to
build up speed. 2 things will happen- either the port boat will think
that you angle is poor and he can't tack there to still make it so
he'll duck you, or if he does tack, you will have speed and angle to
separate yourself from them and sail around them. Very effective if
there are more boats on port, inside. <br>
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4) angles change quickly at the weather mark. The last 100 yards is the
shiftiest part of our course by far- it ridiculous at times how fast
the angles change. Don't assume you can cross someone. But remember this rule: <br>
</span></font><font style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" face="Tahoma"><font size="2"><b>Rule 16.1</b>: When a right-of-way boat changes course, she shall
give the other boat room to keep clear.</font></font><br>
<font style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" face="Tahoma"><font size="2"><b>Rule 16.2</b>: In addition, when after the starting signal a port-tack
boat is keeping clear by sailing to pass astern of a starboard-tack boat,
the starboard-tack boat shall not change course if as a result the port-tack
boat would immediately need to change course to continue keeping clear.<br>
This clears a port boat that was crossing a starboard boat in the event
of sudden wind shift and requires the starboard boat to keep clear.<br>
</font></font><font style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><a href="http://www.ussailing.org/member/library/urrs20041110.htm" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
http://www.ussailing.org/member/library/urrs20041110.htm
</a><br>
- so you can't head up into a boat in a huge shift without giving them room to be clear. <br>
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<br><span style="font-weight: bold;">
Other rules of Interest: </span><br>
</span></font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><a href="http://www.ussailing.org/member/library/urrs20041110.htm" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
</a>Tacking inside the 2 boat circle:<br>
<a href="http://www.ussailing.org/championships/youth/youthchamp//2004/da_rulz.asp" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.ussailing.org/championships/youth/youthchamp//2004/da_rulz.asp
</a><br>
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Overview w diagrams:<br>
<a href="http://www.ussailing.org/championships/youth/youthchamp//2002/graphics/dp2.gif" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.ussailing.org/championships/youth/youthchamp//2002/graphics/dp2.gif
</a><br>
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How well do you know the rules?<br>
<a href="http://www.speedandsmarts.com/Rules_Test/87_Rules_IQ_Test.pdf" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.speedandsmarts.com/Rules_Test/87_Rules_IQ_Test.pdf</a><br>
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Feel free to correct me if or comment as needed. See ya all this weekend!!!<br>
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</span></font>-- <br></div><div><span>Jim Barkow</span></div>