If you look closely on the pettit site, even though vivid is listed under
many different categories the part #s are always the same. Pettit is
calling it a "hard ablative." Apparently it is actually a modified epoxy
(whatever that means). What I think is actually going on is Pettit is being
very aggressive in marketing the paint since it has been so popular. Just
so nobody is confused, there is just one type of pettit vivid. The big
difference between the vivid and the tradition soft ablative paint is the
ability to burnish vivid in the yard after it is applied and the fact that
it retains that smoothness if cleaned properly.
pete
On 4/5/07, Richard Reader <richard.reader at stanfordalumni.org> wrote:
>> Just to be clear, "Pettit Vivid" is not one (i.e. hard bottom) paint--it's
> the brightly colored version available for more than one type of their
> antifouling paints. Specifically, you can get "Vivid" flavored ablative
> anitfouling, hard antifouling, speed antifouling and aluminum antifouling.
>> I point this out because I was confused when I saw an ad for Pettit Vivid
> *ablative* antifouling paint after reading Pete's email.
>> Richard
>> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Pete Trachy < pete at tolachi.com>
> To: List Satanna 22 <tuna at myfleet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2007 12:11:09 PM
> Subject: [Santana 22] How To Wet Sail and Be Fast
>> Summary: Ablative paints are SLOW. Get a sprayed hard bottom. Your
> bottom is only as good as the prep work, spend an afternoon fairing it with
> a 3M fairing board.
>> I think that there are a few people in our fleet who have been unduly
> frustrated in their quest for speed. Faired keels, new sails, and years
> spent sailing still leaves the top of the fleet out of reach. I personally
> think that bottom work has done more to take me from being consistently last
> in the fleet than anything else, including new sails.
>> Many of the wet sailed boats, including mine when I got it, have a
> traditional ablative bottom paint. This paint is soft and rough. Even
> though I was cleaning my old ablative bottom before races, it's cratered
> surface was never going to be fast. From what I understand, this type of
> thing is very difficult to avoid with an ablative bottom as the paint
> gradually flakes away.
>> A hard paint will maintain a smooth surface over the life of the paint job
> and not flake off like an ablative. You will also be able to to give it a
> light wet sanding with 600 grit to make it super smooth before it leaves the
> yard.
>> Steps:
>> 1: Remove all of your old ablative bottom paint. It will bleed through
> and screw up your new hard paint. This is a must first step.
>> 2: Your bottom is now down to gel coat, spend a day or so going over it
> with a long board. If there are any divets etc... Fill them with fairing
> compound and sand them smooth. The end product is only going to be as good
> as the effort you put into this step!
>> 2.5: You may need a barrier coat. Talk to your yard or paint
> manufacturer.
>> 3: Pick a hard bottom paint and get it sprayed on. Get it sprayed.
> Sprayed is smooth, sprayed is faster.
>> 4: Give your bottom a light sanding with 600 grit after it has dried.
> Light, we don't want to take too much off.
>> 5: Clean your bottom before every race you care about doing well in. And
> make sure your diver is treating it well. Pettit vivid should only be
> cleaned with smooth carpet, I think I am going to use a sponge this year.
>> Paints: I personally like Pettit Vivid because it comes in white which is
> easy for me to clean. Michael Tosse at Svendsen's recommended Proline 1088
> with graphite mixed in. Kim Desenberg at KKMI says they like Micron 66
> which he thinks is harder than vivid. I'm sure there are other solutions.
> The key is to get a hard paint and prepare the bottom well.
>> Tools: 3M makes a great fairing board. It made a huge difference when I
> was working on my keel. I have one that you can borrow.
>> Don't let your yard push you around into doing what is easiest for them.
> If you have questions ask the list.
>> Finally, I want to point to the results at the last Scombridae Sunday.
> Kevin McElroy and his brother Darren got 3rd of 8 boats in the after lunch
> racing. I know that Kevin only got the boat last fall and just started
> sailing a year and half ago. This was the first time he had raced the
> boat. He just got a sprayed Vivid bottom (yellow as you may have noticed)
> and cleaned it that morning. Old sails, no rockstar crew, just some hard
> work in the yard and a smart young man at the helm.
>> I think that getting the right bottom on the wet sailed boats in our fleet
> will make the racing tighter and more fun for everybody. Clarifications,
> corrections, personal experience... let us know.
>> Pete
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