[Santana 22] rig tension tips

Jan Grygier hydrophilos at earthlink.net
Wed May 28 00:54:41 EDT 2014

Garth, are you sure about your shroud diameters?  My interpretation of 
the class rules is the uppers should be 5/16th (see page 23 in the class 
rules on the class web site <http://santana22.com/static/clsrules.pdf>, 
item 35):

Wire rigging shall be of the same dimensions and materials as supplied 
by factory
except as to lower shrouds. Turnbuckles must be not less than factory
specifications as to dimensions and materials. No rod rigging is 
permitted. It is
suggested that boats sailing in heavy air replace the factory supplied 
5/32" lower
shrouds with 3/16" wire.

To be clear, I am not accusing you of being out of compliance (let alone 
deliberately), just wondering if your uppers and lowers are indeed both 

Anybody else have fat uppers (or an opinion on the measurement rule)?

Jan Grygier,
Past measurer, Fleet 1

On 5/27/2014 9:32 PM, Garth Copenhaver wrote:
> Your welcome, Silas. I have 3/16" wire on both the uppers and lowers. I would be interested to know how much shroud  tension others use (?).
> Warmly, Garth
> Garth Copenhaver
> 415-450-0843
> On May 27, 2014, at 9:03 PM, "Silas Boyd-Wickizer" <silasbw at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Garth!
>> Do you have 3/16 on the lowers and 5/32 on the uppers?
>> Silas
>> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Garth Copenhaver
>> <lodrosangbo at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Silas,
>>> Oreo goes with about 480 lbs on the uppers and 380lbs on the lowers for the summer breezes. These pounds relate to the pounds of tension prior to  loads. On the Loos B gauge this is 22 on the uppers and 18 on the lowers. For the NAs I went up to 25 on the uppers for the 25 knot plus breezes.
>>> The lowers seem to always be slack when healing so I would not use that "heuristic" for the lowers. I find that a good rule is to make sure that you have some slight bend back in the mast and make sure you do not have inverted bend (bend forward).
>>> Regards,
>>> Garth
>>> Garth Copenhaver
>>> 415-450-0843
>>> On May 27, 2014, at 2:31 PM, "Silas Boyd-Wickizer" <silasbw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I'm tinkering with the shroud tension on dayspring.  I've read and
>>>> heard contradictory advice on what good tension is for racing a
>>>> Santana 22.  Can anyone share qualitative or quantitative tips that
>>>> they use?  Is the heuristic "leeward shrouds shouldn't be slack when
>>>> close hauled" a good one to use?  Does anyone know approximately how
>>>> many pounds this corresponds to?
>>>> Hope to see you all this Saturday,
>>>> Silas
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