The point is to get involved and have some fun without going broke. I've seen quite a few well cared for Tunas for sale over the years in the 3-6k range. One can come out well ahead of the game if one purchases one of these and steers clear of the freebies. Russell admits his has been neglected in his ad. Good for him for the upfront disclosure. I provided the rest of the story - the real cost, and an alternative to get involved and get sailing faster. However, if one wishes to work on one's boat for a year (or two) whilst dropping upwards of 10k, by all means, TAKE THE FREE ONE :-D
On Mar 7, 2016, at 11:15 PM, tuna-request at myfleet.org wrote:
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>> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 23:15:14 -0800
> From: Kristy Lugert <klugert at mac.com>
> To: tuna at myfleet.org> Subject: [Santana 22] Fun is not free
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>> Ha ha, yes, most of us are now well invested Tuna parents. If you've got the cash, why not, I agree. However, most folks looking at these poor neglected Tunas have no idea what they are getting into. Information before making the leap is not a bad thing.
>> On Mar 7, 2016, at 11:03 PM, tuna-request at myfleet.org wrote:
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>>>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 07:03:01 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Heidi Schmidt <heidieschmidt at yahoo.com>
>> To: Kristy Lugert <klugert at mac.com>, "tuna at myfleet.org"
>> <tuna at myfleet.org>
>> Subject: [Santana 22] Love my Tuna
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>>>> Santana 22's are such wonderful boats. Why not invest in fun?
>>>> h
>>>>>> From: Kristy Lugert <klugert at mac.com>
>> To: tuna at myfleet.org>> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 10:45 PM
>> Subject: [Santana 22] Buying or adopting a free Tuna - what does it cost?
>>>> I'd hate to see an enthusiastic and unsuspecting newcomer take on an abandoned/free boat only to find out what it really costs to go racing in a OD fleet, even if you do the work yourself (IF you can find a place to do it which is near impossible now).?
>> 1) Bottom with layers of old paint and a reef with tropical fish swimming under it- At least $1500 and probably a WHOLE lot more if there are blisters to repair and lots of layers to sand off. ?The yard will charge you to haul it, set it, store by the day, and $100/hour to work on it (sand, paint, repair) which you are not allowed to do yourself due to the toxicity factor. Bottoms are BIG BUCKS?2) Racing sails - Used $2000, New - $3000-$40003) Standing rigging - $1500-$20004) Running rigging - $1000+ (check the sheaves while you're at it)5) Rudder post sitting in water (better plan on $1000+ for a new one).6) Trailer for after you do all that work - $500 for a yard trailer to $3000+ for one you can actually use)
>> Things to check, and these are just the biggies, I'm sure there's a lot I'm forgetting:- rotten bulkheads- soft spots in the deck around the chain plates or anywhere else hardware is fastened to the deck- Corrosion on the boom, rudder post, mast step, and chain plates- Rusty keel bolts- Unsupported deck under the mast - it will be dipped near the mast step if weak- Rusty keel (haul it before you adopt it or risk the big bucks)- Loose keel (it shouldn't move, and you'll need to haul it to check this out)- Old rusty standing rigging won't keep the rig up in the summer winds- Leaky or frozen thru-hulls (you'll need to replace or fill them - $600)- electrical, don't worry about it, you'll want it to burn down by the time you get to the end of this list.
>>>>>>>> On Mar 7, 2016, at 10:15 PM, tuna-request at myfleet.org wrote:
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>>>> ??1. Re: Tuna Digest, Vol 233, Issue 1 (Russell Whitaker)
>> ??2. Re: Tuna Digest, Vol 233, Issue 1 (Jan Grygier)
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>>>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 21:14:59 -0800
>> From: Russell Whitaker <russell.whitaker at gmail.com>
>> To: Kristy Lugert <klugert at mac.com>, "tuna at myfleet.org"
>> <tuna at myfleet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Santana 22] Tuna Digest, Vol 233, Issue 1
>> Message-ID:
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>>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Kristy Lugert <klugert at mac.com> wrote:
>>>> Free (neglected) boats are very very expensive people.
>> Pay the 3-6k and get one that doesn't need 8-10 to be competitive.
>>>> Kristy
>>>>>>>> Did you not see the scare quotes I placed around the word "free"? We
>> all know there's no
>> such thing as a "free" boat, Kristy, thanks for your concern. Yes, the
>> boat needs TLC. I made
>> that abundantly clear.
>>>> Russell
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 7, 2016, at 2:43 PM, tuna-request at myfleet.org wrote:
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>>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>> ?1. Big Daddy Regatta on Saturday! (deborah fehr)
>> ?2. Santana 22 #5150 free to a loving home (Russell Whitaker)
>> ?3. Re: Santana 22 #5150 free to a loving home
>> ????(Anne-Carlijn Alderkamp)
>> ?4. Re: Santana 22 #5150 free to a loving home (Eric Pederson)
>> ?5. Re: Santana 22 #5150 free to a loving home (Russell Whitaker)
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>>>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 09:13:14 -0800
>> From: deborah fehr <dfehr777 at gmail.com>
>> To: Santana 22 list <tuna at myfleet.org>
>> Subject: [Santana 22] Big Daddy Regatta on Saturday!
>> Message-ID:
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>>>> Hello Racers!!!
>>>> The Big Daddy Regatta is this Saturday! We currently have 5 boats signed
>> up, so we have our own start. This regatta counts toward the Santana 22
>> season standings.
>>>> The link below will take you to the signup page:
>>>>http://www.regattanetwork.com/event/12111>>>> Hope to see you out there!
>>>> Cheers!
>> Deb Fehr
>> Meliki #5194
>> Co-fleet Captain
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>> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 11:03:58 -0800
>> From: Russell Whitaker <russell.whitaker at gmail.com>
>> To: "tuna at myfleet.org" <tuna at myfleet.org>
>> Subject: [Santana 22] Santana 22 #5150 free to a loving home
>> Message-ID:
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>>>> So, I've got a tuna I bought 4 years ago that I've sailed a shamefully small
>> number of times (twice in beercan races) at Brisbane marina. Anna knows the
>> boat (at least the boat she recommended I buy, and on which she was the
>> tactician [and the one knowledgeable racer, actually]) for a SPYC beercan race
>> in 2011.
>>>> I haven't sailed her in a couple years, and last visited her a few months ago
>> to clean up the topside and lament my neglect. I stopped having a diver
>> do quarterly cleaning a year ago, and have been paying Brisbane $200/month
>> to do nothing with it. I'm sick of letting her rot at dock, and on the
>> last couple
>> of occasions I've put out feelers on my personal "friends" social network, I
>> discovered who among my network felt no compunctions about wasting my
>> time.
>>>> So, I'm finally letting the Tuna fleet here know I'm giving her away, "free"
>> (you all know what "free boat" means) to someone familiar with Tunas.
>>>> It has a Pineapple mainsail with one set of reef points put in by
>> Peninsula (yes, I
>> know, but we weren't planning to race the boat). Also a lightweight spinnaker
>> and some other miscellaneous sail inventory.
>>>> The boat really needs a bottom job and, frankly, could really use freeboard
>> and deck repaint as well.
>>>> I will be available on Saturday morning from 0800 when the Brisbane
>> harbormaster office opens. If you want this boat, show up, confirm you'll
>> take it, and I'll sign the title over to you in the harbormaster's office after
>> they've approved your paperwork (which you will have downloaded and
>> filled out before heading down to see me; we'll coordinate)
>>>> No, I won't give the boat away and keep paying the dock fees; I don't want
>> to deal with the 30-day notice requirement (I called them just now and
>> confirmed that). You take the slip if you want the boat.
>>>> No, I won't part out the boat and give or sell you pieces like sail inventory.
>> Don't ask.
>>>> Make this easy for me and the boat's yours.
>>>> Thanks, Russell
>>>> --
>> Russell Whitaker
>>http://twitter.com/OrthoNormalRuss>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 11:22:53 -0800
>> From: Anne-Carlijn Alderkamp <acalderkamp at gmail.com>
>> To: Russell Whitaker <russell.whitaker at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "tuna at myfleet.org" <tuna at myfleet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Santana 22] Santana 22 #5150 free to a loving home
>> Message-ID:
>> ??<CAEiZFD3OVGgw44LPtjmp0GbXFVZbGes3pjCR0FWvmoFng79GgA at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>> This is a good deal for anyone stoked to get into beercan racing in the
>> Southbay. Best beercan races on the bay on Tuesday nights! If I can make it
>> I'll be your crew!
>>>> When Russell bought this boat it had a good hull and a decent sail
>> inventory. I'm sure it needs some TLC now, but this could be a great boat
>> if you want boat ownership a try,
>>>> Cheers,
>> Anna
>>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Russell Whitaker <
>>russell.whitaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> So, I've got a tuna I bought 4 years ago that I've sailed a shamefully
>> small
>> number of times (twice in beercan races) at Brisbane marina. Anna knows the
>> boat (at least the boat she recommended I buy, and on which she was the
>> tactician [and the one knowledgeable racer, actually]) for a SPYC beercan
>> race
>> in 2011.
>>>> I haven't sailed her in a couple years, and last visited her a few months
>> ago
>> to clean up the topside and lament my neglect. I stopped having a diver
>> do quarterly cleaning a year ago, and have been paying Brisbane $200/month
>> to do nothing with it. I'm sick of letting her rot at dock, and on the
>> last couple
>> of occasions I've put out feelers on my personal "friends" social network,
>> I
>> discovered who among my network felt no compunctions about wasting my
>> time.
>>>> So, I'm finally letting the Tuna fleet here know I'm giving her away,
>> "free"
>> (you all know what "free boat" means) to someone familiar with Tunas.
>>>> It has a Pineapple mainsail with one set of reef points put in by
>> Peninsula (yes, I
>> know, but we weren't planning to race the boat). Also a lightweight
>> spinnaker
>> and some other miscellaneous sail inventory.
>>>> The boat really needs a bottom job and, frankly, could really use freeboard
>> and deck repaint as well.
>>>> I will be available on Saturday morning from 0800 when the Brisbane
>> harbormaster office opens. If you want this boat, show up, confirm you'll
>> take it, and I'll sign the title over to you in the harbormaster's office
>> after
>> they've approved your paperwork (which you will have downloaded and
>> filled out before heading down to see me; we'll coordinate)
>>>> No, I won't give the boat away and keep paying the dock fees; I don't want
>> to deal with the 30-day notice requirement (I called them just now and
>> confirmed that). You take the slip if you want the boat.
>>>> No, I won't part out the boat and give or sell you pieces like sail
>> inventory.
>> Don't ask.
>>>> Make this easy for me and the boat's yours.
>>>> Thanks, Russell
>>>> --
>> Russell Whitaker
>>http://twitter.com/OrthoNormalRuss>> _______________________________________________
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>> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 12:13:05 -0800
>> From: Eric Pederson <eric.pederson at gmail.com>
>> To: Anne-Carlijn Alderkamp <acalderkamp at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "tuna at myfleet.org" <tuna at myfleet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Santana 22] Santana 22 #5150 free to a loving home
>> Message-ID:
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>>>> This piques my interest. ?Curious how much work it will need. ?cheers
>>>> Eric
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Anne-Carlijn Alderkamp <
>>acalderkamp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> This is a good deal for anyone stoked to get into beercan racing in the
>> Southbay. Best beercan races on the bay on Tuesday nights! If I can make it
>> I'll be your crew!
>>>> When Russell bought this boat it had a good hull and a decent sail
>> inventory. I'm sure it needs some TLC now, but this could be a great boat
>> if you want boat ownership a try,
>>>> Cheers,
>> Anna
>>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Russell Whitaker <
>>russell.whitaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> So, I've got a tuna I bought 4 years ago that I've sailed a shamefully
>> small
>> number of times (twice in beercan races) at Brisbane marina. Anna knows
>> the
>> boat (at least the boat she recommended I buy, and on which she was the
>> tactician [and the one knowledgeable racer, actually]) for a SPYC beercan
>> race
>> in 2011.
>>>> I haven't sailed her in a couple years, and last visited her a few months
>> ago
>> to clean up the topside and lament my neglect. I stopped having a diver
>> do quarterly cleaning a year ago, and have been paying Brisbane $200/month
>> to do nothing with it. I'm sick of letting her rot at dock, and on the
>> last couple
>> of occasions I've put out feelers on my personal "friends" social
>> network, I
>> discovered who among my network felt no compunctions about wasting my
>> time.
>>>> So, I'm finally letting the Tuna fleet here know I'm giving her away,
>> "free"
>> (you all know what "free boat" means) to someone familiar with Tunas.
>>>> It has a Pineapple mainsail with one set of reef points put in by
>> Peninsula (yes, I
>> know, but we weren't planning to race the boat). Also a lightweight
>> spinnaker
>> and some other miscellaneous sail inventory.
>>>> The boat really needs a bottom job and, frankly, could really use
>> freeboard
>> and deck repaint as well.
>>>> I will be available on Saturday morning from 0800 when the Brisbane
>> harbormaster office opens. If you want this boat, show up, confirm you'll
>> take it, and I'll sign the title over to you in the harbormaster's office
>> after
>> they've approved your paperwork (which you will have downloaded and
>> filled out before heading down to see me; we'll coordinate)
>>>> No, I won't give the boat away and keep paying the dock fees; I don't want
>> to deal with the 30-day notice requirement (I called them just now and
>> confirmed that). You take the slip if you want the boat.
>>>> No, I won't part out the boat and give or sell you pieces like sail
>> inventory.
>> Don't ask.
>>>> Make this easy for me and the boat's yours.
>>>> Thanks, Russell
>>>> --
>> Russell Whitaker
>>http://twitter.com/OrthoNormalRuss>> _______________________________________________
>> Tuna mailing list
>>Tuna at myfleet.org>>http://myfleet.org/mailman/listinfo/tuna>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> Eric Pederson
>> 408-341-9606
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>>>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 14:43:58 -0800
>> From: Russell Whitaker <russell.whitaker at gmail.com>
>> To: Anne-Carlijn Alderkamp <acalderkamp at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "tuna at myfleet.org" <tuna at myfleet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Santana 22] Santana 22 #5150 free to a loving home
>> Message-ID:
>> ??<CAMpSqci88_5H55DhEWOYoORsW7TSOCNTJqJx10Xg84ZGFgsenA at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>>> I've gotten a number of questions about this boat from different
>> people today, which I'll address here:
>>>> 1.) "Are you giving away a trailer with the boat?" -- No. If I'd had a
>> trailer, I'd have pulled the boat from the
>> water a long, long time ago, and would likely have actually _used_ the
>> boat in a meaningful way. No trailer.
>>>> 2.) "Does it have an outboard?" -- Yes. It's a Nissan 5.0HP longshaft.
>> I got rid of the old 3.5HP outboard when
>> I first bought the boat because it felt underpowered motoring in and
>> out of the seawall-protected parts of the
>> marina, and I wanted to counter the sometimes-considerable ebb and
>> flood currents at the harbor entrance.
>> No, you're not going to fire up the motor when you take the boat,
>> because it's been been started in a couple of
>> years. You'll ruin it, if you can even get it started (I'm assuming
>> the spark plug is shot by now, for example.)
>> You need to strip it, clean it, and lube it. But it exists if you want
>> to use it properly. Or you can sell the damn
>> thing.
>>>> 3.) "Does it sail?" -- It did last time I sailed it. I'd clean her up,
>> lubricate some winches, etc.
>>>> 4.) "Do you have photos?" -- I have lots. But the most recent I have
>> are from last spring when I renewed my
>> BoatUS insurance policy on it. Three photos from March 2015; I'll send
>> them to you privately if you're interested.
>>>> 5.) "Will you deliver it to me at X?" -- Haha... no. "Free" boat.
>>>> 6.) "Can I take it out first before I decide?" -- Nope. "Free" boat.
>> Or, yes, but I'll charge you my normal
>> professional engineer's consulting fees for my time. I bill hourly, 4
>> hours minimum. And I'm not cheap.
>>>> 7.) "I'm interested but I can't see you this weekend, can you hold it
>> for me?" -- No, sorry. If it really takes me
>> two weeks to get this albatross from around my neck, I'm going to
>> offer it to the USN (I still have a couple of
>> buddies there, I think) as a gunnery practice target.
>>>> Russell
>>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Anne-Carlijn Alderkamp
>> <acalderkamp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> This is a good deal for anyone stoked to get into beercan racing in the
>> Southbay. Best beercan races on the bay on Tuesday nights! If I can make it
>> I'll be your crew!
>>>> When Russell bought this boat it had a good hull and a decent sail
>> inventory. I'm sure it needs some TLC now, but this could be a great boat if
>> you want boat ownership a try,
>>>> Cheers,
>> Anna
>>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Russell Whitaker
>> <russell.whitaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> So, I've got a tuna I bought 4 years ago that I've sailed a shamefully
>> small
>> number of times (twice in beercan races) at Brisbane marina. Anna knows
>> the
>> boat (at least the boat she recommended I buy, and on which she was the
>> tactician [and the one knowledgeable racer, actually]) for a SPYC beercan
>> race
>> in 2011.
>>>> I haven't sailed her in a couple years, and last visited her a few months
>> ago
>> to clean up the topside and lament my neglect. I stopped having a diver
>> do quarterly cleaning a year ago, and have been paying Brisbane $200/month
>> to do nothing with it. I'm sick of letting her rot at dock, and on the
>> last couple
>> of occasions I've put out feelers on my personal "friends" social network,
>> I
>> discovered who among my network felt no compunctions about wasting my
>> time.
>>>> So, I'm finally letting the Tuna fleet here know I'm giving her away,
>> "free"
>> (you all know what "free boat" means) to someone familiar with Tunas.
>>>> It has a Pineapple mainsail with one set of reef points put in by
>> Peninsula (yes, I
>> know, but we weren't planning to race the boat). Also a lightweight
>> spinnaker
>> and some other miscellaneous sail inventory.
>>>> The boat really needs a bottom job and, frankly, could really use
>> freeboard
>> and deck repaint as well.
>>>> I will be available on Saturday morning from 0800 when the Brisbane
>> harbormaster office opens. If you want this boat, show up, confirm you'll
>> take it, and I'll sign the title over to you in the harbormaster's office
>> after
>> they've approved your paperwork (which you will have downloaded and
>> filled out before heading down to see me; we'll coordinate)
>>>> No, I won't give the boat away and keep paying the dock fees; I don't want
>> to deal with the 30-day notice requirement (I called them just now and
>> confirmed that). You take the slip if you want the boat.
>>>> No, I won't part out the boat and give or sell you pieces like sail
>> inventory.
>> Don't ask.
>>>> Make this easy for me and the boat's yours.
>>>> Thanks, Russell
>>>> --
>> Russell Whitaker
>>http://twitter.com/OrthoNormalRuss>> _______________________________________________
>> Tuna mailing list
>>Tuna at myfleet.org>>http://myfleet.org/mailman/listinfo/tuna>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> Russell Whitaker
>>http://twitter.com/OrthoNormalRuss>>http://www.linkedin.com/pub/russell-whitaker/0/b86/329>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> _______________________________________________
>> Tuna mailing list
>>Tuna at myfleet.org>>http://myfleet.org/mailman/listinfo/tuna>>>>>> End of Tuna Digest, Vol 233, Issue 1
>> ************************************
>>>> _______________________________________________
>> Tuna mailing list
>>Tuna at myfleet.org>>http://myfleet.org/mailman/listinfo/tuna>>>>>>>>>> --
>> Russell Whitaker
>>http://twitter.com/OrthoNormalRuss>>http://www.linkedin.com/pub/russell-whitaker/0/b86/329>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 22:15:46 -0800
>> From: Jan Grygier <hydrophilos at earthlink.net>
>> To: Russell Whitaker <russell.whitaker at gmail.com>, Kristy Lugert
>> <klugert at mac.com>, "tuna at myfleet.org" <tuna at myfleet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Santana 22] Tuna Digest, Vol 233, Issue 1
>> Message-ID: <56DE6E12.4010304 at earthlink.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>>>> Indeed you did Russell.
>> In case folks want some history, 5150 used to be a very competitive boat
>> called Shazzam. ?I forget the owner from that time, but I bought his
>> genoa which I still have (not that it comes with the hull :) ?So at
>> least you know the tracks and winches are in the right places, and she
>> presumably has SS keelbolts and the like.
>>>> If you want to get started racing she would be set up well, just be very
>> slow to start off with the old bottom. ?But that sail number is crazy
>> good, eh?
>>>> Jan Grygier
>> Carlos, #5020
>>>>>> On 3/7/2016 9:14 PM, Russell Whitaker wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Kristy Lugert <klugert at mac.com> wrote:
>>>> Free (neglected) boats are very very expensive people.
>> Pay the 3-6k and get one that doesn't need 8-10 to be competitive.
>>>> Kristy
>>>>>> Did you not see the scare quotes I placed around the word "free"? We
>> all know there's no
>> such thing as a "free" boat, Kristy, thanks for your concern. Yes, the
>> boat needs TLC. I made
>> that abundantly clear.
>>>> Russell
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 7, 2016, at 2:43 PM, tuna-request at myfleet.org wrote:
>>>> Send Tuna mailing list submissions to
>> ???tuna at myfleet.org>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>> ???http://myfleet.org/mailman/listinfo/tuna>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>> ???tuna-request at myfleet.org>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>> ???tuna-owner at myfleet.org>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of Tuna digest..."
>>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>> ??1. Big Daddy Regatta on Saturday! (deborah fehr)
>> ??2. Santana 22 #5150 free to a loving home (Russell Whitaker)
>> ??3. Re: Santana 22 #5150 free to a loving home
>> ?????(Anne-Carlijn Alderkamp)
>> ??4. Re: Santana 22 #5150 free to a loving home (Eric Pederson)
>> ??5. Re: Santana 22 #5150 free to a loving home (Russell Whitaker)
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>>>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 09:13:14 -0800
>> From: deborah fehr <dfehr777 at gmail.com>
>> To: Santana 22 list <tuna at myfleet.org>
>> Subject: [Santana 22] Big Daddy Regatta on Saturday!
>> Message-ID:
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>>>> Hello Racers!!!
>>>> The Big Daddy Regatta is this Saturday! We currently have 5 boats signed
>> up, so we have our own start. This regatta counts toward the Santana 22
>> season standings.
>>>> The link below will take you to the signup page:
>>>>http://www.regattanetwork.com/event/12111>>>> Hope to see you out there!
>>>> Cheers!
>> Deb Fehr
>> Meliki #5194
>> Co-fleet Captain
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>> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 11:03:58 -0800
>> From: Russell Whitaker <russell.whitaker at gmail.com>
>> To: "tuna at myfleet.org" <tuna at myfleet.org>
>> Subject: [Santana 22] Santana 22 #5150 free to a loving home
>> Message-ID:
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>>>> So, I've got a tuna I bought 4 years ago that I've sailed a shamefully small
>> number of times (twice in beercan races) at Brisbane marina. Anna knows the
>> boat (at least the boat she recommended I buy, and on which she was the
>> tactician [and the one knowledgeable racer, actually]) for a SPYC beercan race
>> in 2011.
>>>> I haven't sailed her in a couple years, and last visited her a few months ago
>> to clean up the topside and lament my neglect. I stopped having a diver
>> do quarterly cleaning a year ago, and have been paying Brisbane $200/month
>> to do nothing with it. I'm sick of letting her rot at dock, and on the
>> last couple
>> of occasions I've put out feelers on my personal "friends" social network, I
>> discovered who among my network felt no compunctions about wasting my
>> time.
>>>> So, I'm finally letting the Tuna fleet here know I'm giving her away, "free"
>> (you all know what "free boat" means) to someone familiar with Tunas.
>>>> It has a Pineapple mainsail with one set of reef points put in by
>> Peninsula (yes, I
>> know, but we weren't planning to race the boat). Also a lightweight spinnaker
>> and some other miscellaneous sail inventory.
>>>> The boat really needs a bottom job and, frankly, could really use freeboard
>> and deck repaint as well.
>>>> I will be available on Saturday morning from 0800 when the Brisbane
>> harbormaster office opens. If you want this boat, show up, confirm you'll
>> take it, and I'll sign the title over to you in the harbormaster's office after
>> they've approved your paperwork (which you will have downloaded and
>> filled out before heading down to see me; we'll coordinate)
>>>> No, I won't give the boat away and keep paying the dock fees; I don't want
>> to deal with the 30-day notice requirement (I called them just now and
>> confirmed that). You take the slip if you want the boat.
>>>> No, I won't part out the boat and give or sell you pieces like sail inventory.
>> Don't ask.
>>>> Make this easy for me and the boat's yours.
>>>> Thanks, Russell
>>>> --
>> Russell Whitaker
>>http://twitter.com/OrthoNormalRuss>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 11:22:53 -0800
>> From: Anne-Carlijn Alderkamp <acalderkamp at gmail.com>
>> To: Russell Whitaker <russell.whitaker at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "tuna at myfleet.org" <tuna at myfleet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Santana 22] Santana 22 #5150 free to a loving home
>> Message-ID:
>> ???<CAEiZFD3OVGgw44LPtjmp0GbXFVZbGes3pjCR0FWvmoFng79GgA at mail.gmail.com>
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>>>> This is a good deal for anyone stoked to get into beercan racing in the
>> Southbay. Best beercan races on the bay on Tuesday nights! If I can make it
>> I'll be your crew!
>>>> When Russell bought this boat it had a good hull and a decent sail
>> inventory. I'm sure it needs some TLC now, but this could be a great boat
>> if you want boat ownership a try,
>>>> Cheers,
>> Anna
>>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Russell Whitaker <
>>russell.whitaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> So, I've got a tuna I bought 4 years ago that I've sailed a shamefully
>> small
>> number of times (twice in beercan races) at Brisbane marina. Anna knows the
>> boat (at least the boat she recommended I buy, and on which she was the
>> tactician [and the one knowledgeable racer, actually]) for a SPYC beercan
>> race
>> in 2011.
>>>> I haven't sailed her in a couple years, and last visited her a few months
>> ago
>> to clean up the topside and lament my neglect. I stopped having a diver
>> do quarterly cleaning a year ago, and have been paying Brisbane $200/month
>> to do nothing with it. I'm sick of letting her rot at dock, and on the
>> last couple
>> of occasions I've put out feelers on my personal "friends" social network,
>> I
>> discovered who among my network felt no compunctions about wasting my
>> time.
>>>> So, I'm finally letting the Tuna fleet here know I'm giving her away,
>> "free"
>> (you all know what "free boat" means) to someone familiar with Tunas.
>>>> It has a Pineapple mainsail with one set of reef points put in by
>> Peninsula (yes, I
>> know, but we weren't planning to race the boat). Also a lightweight
>> spinnaker
>> and some other miscellaneous sail inventory.
>>>> The boat really needs a bottom job and, frankly, could really use freeboard
>> and deck repaint as well.
>>>> I will be available on Saturday morning from 0800 when the Brisbane
>> harbormaster office opens. If you want this boat, show up, confirm you'll
>> take it, and I'll sign the title over to you in the harbormaster's office
>> after
>> they've approved your paperwork (which you will have downloaded and
>> filled out before heading down to see me; we'll coordinate)
>>>> No, I won't give the boat away and keep paying the dock fees; I don't want
>> to deal with the 30-day notice requirement (I called them just now and
>> confirmed that). You take the slip if you want the boat.
>>>> No, I won't part out the boat and give or sell you pieces like sail
>> inventory.
>> Don't ask.
>>>> Make this easy for me and the boat's yours.
>>>> Thanks, Russell
>>>> --
>> Russell Whitaker
>>http://twitter.com/OrthoNormalRuss>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 12:13:05 -0800
>> From: Eric Pederson <eric.pederson at gmail.com>
>> To: Anne-Carlijn Alderkamp <acalderkamp at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "tuna at myfleet.org" <tuna at myfleet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Santana 22] Santana 22 #5150 free to a loving home
>> Message-ID:
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>>>> This piques my interest. ?Curious how much work it will need. ?cheers
>>>> Eric
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Anne-Carlijn Alderkamp <
>>acalderkamp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> This is a good deal for anyone stoked to get into beercan racing in the
>> Southbay. Best beercan races on the bay on Tuesday nights! If I can make it
>> I'll be your crew!
>>>> When Russell bought this boat it had a good hull and a decent sail
>> inventory. I'm sure it needs some TLC now, but this could be a great boat
>> if you want boat ownership a try,
>>>> Cheers,
>> Anna
>>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Russell Whitaker <
>>russell.whitaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> So, I've got a tuna I bought 4 years ago that I've sailed a shamefully
>> small
>> number of times (twice in beercan races) at Brisbane marina. Anna knows
>> the
>> boat (at least the boat she recommended I buy, and on which she was the
>> tactician [and the one knowledgeable racer, actually]) for a SPYC beercan
>> race
>> in 2011.
>>>> I haven't sailed her in a couple years, and last visited her a few months
>> ago
>> to clean up the topside and lament my neglect. I stopped having a diver
>> do quarterly cleaning a year ago, and have been paying Brisbane $200/month
>> to do nothing with it. I'm sick of letting her rot at dock, and on the
>> last couple
>> of occasions I've put out feelers on my personal "friends" social
>> network, I
>> discovered who among my network felt no compunctions about wasting my
>> time.
>>>> So, I'm finally letting the Tuna fleet here know I'm giving her away,
>> "free"
>> (you all know what "free boat" means) to someone familiar with Tunas.
>>>> It has a Pineapple mainsail with one set of reef points put in by
>> Peninsula (yes, I
>> know, but we weren't planning to race the boat). Also a lightweight
>> spinnaker
>> and some other miscellaneous sail inventory.
>>>> The boat really needs a bottom job and, frankly, could really use
>> freeboard
>> and deck repaint as well.
>>>> I will be available on Saturday morning from 0800 when the Brisbane
>> harbormaster office opens. If you want this boat, show up, confirm you'll
>> take it, and I'll sign the title over to you in the harbormaster's office
>> after
>> they've approved your paperwork (which you will have downloaded and
>> filled out before heading down to see me; we'll coordinate)
>>>> No, I won't give the boat away and keep paying the dock fees; I don't want
>> to deal with the 30-day notice requirement (I called them just now and
>> confirmed that). You take the slip if you want the boat.
>>>> No, I won't part out the boat and give or sell you pieces like sail
>> inventory.
>> Don't ask.
>>>> Make this easy for me and the boat's yours.
>>>> Thanks, Russell
>>>> --
>> Russell Whitaker
>>http://twitter.com/OrthoNormalRuss>> _______________________________________________
>> Tuna mailing list
>>Tuna at myfleet.org>>http://myfleet.org/mailman/listinfo/tuna>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> Eric Pederson
>> 408-341-9606
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>>>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 14:43:58 -0800
>> From: Russell Whitaker <russell.whitaker at gmail.com>
>> To: Anne-Carlijn Alderkamp <acalderkamp at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "tuna at myfleet.org" <tuna at myfleet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Santana 22] Santana 22 #5150 free to a loving home
>> Message-ID:
>> ???<CAMpSqci88_5H55DhEWOYoORsW7TSOCNTJqJx10Xg84ZGFgsenA at mail.gmail.com>
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>>>> I've gotten a number of questions about this boat from different
>> people today, which I'll address here:
>>>> 1.) "Are you giving away a trailer with the boat?" -- No. If I'd had a
>> trailer, I'd have pulled the boat from the
>> water a long, long time ago, and would likely have actually _used_ the
>> boat in a meaningful way. No trailer.
>>>> 2.) "Does it have an outboard?" -- Yes. It's a Nissan 5.0HP longshaft.
>> I got rid of the old 3.5HP outboard when
>> I first bought the boat because it felt underpowered motoring in and
>> out of the seawall-protected parts of the
>> marina, and I wanted to counter the sometimes-considerable ebb and
>> flood currents at the harbor entrance.
>> No, you're not going to fire up the motor when you take the boat,
>> because it's been been started in a couple of
>> years. You'll ruin it, if you can even get it started (I'm assuming
>> the spark plug is shot by now, for example.)
>> You need to strip it, clean it, and lube it. But it exists if you want
>> to use it properly. Or you can sell the damn
>> thing.
>>>> 3.) "Does it sail?" -- It did last time I sailed it. I'd clean her up,
>> lubricate some winches, etc.
>>>> 4.) "Do you have photos?" -- I have lots. But the most recent I have
>> are from last spring when I renewed my
>> BoatUS insurance policy on it. Three photos from March 2015; I'll send
>> them to you privately if you're interested.
>>>> 5.) "Will you deliver it to me at X?" -- Haha... no. "Free" boat.
>>>> 6.) "Can I take it out first before I decide?" -- Nope. "Free" boat.
>> Or, yes, but I'll charge you my normal
>> professional engineer's consulting fees for my time. I bill hourly, 4
>> hours minimum. And I'm not cheap.
>>>> 7.) "I'm interested but I can't see you this weekend, can you hold it
>> for me?" -- No, sorry. If it really takes me
>> two weeks to get this albatross from around my neck, I'm going to
>> offer it to the USN (I still have a couple of
>> buddies there, I think) as a gunnery practice target.
>>>> Russell
>>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Anne-Carlijn Alderkamp
>> <acalderkamp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> This is a good deal for anyone stoked to get into beercan racing in the
>> Southbay. Best beercan races on the bay on Tuesday nights! If I can make it
>> I'll be your crew!
>>>> When Russell bought this boat it had a good hull and a decent sail
>> inventory. I'm sure it needs some TLC now, but this could be a great boat if
>> you want boat ownership a try,
>>>> Cheers,
>> Anna
>>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Russell Whitaker
>> <russell.whitaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> So, I've got a tuna I bought 4 years ago that I've sailed a shamefully
>> small
>> number of times (twice in beercan races) at Brisbane marina. Anna knows
>> the
>> boat (at least the boat she recommended I buy, and on which she was the
>> tactician [and the one knowledgeable racer, actually]) for a SPYC beercan
>> race
>> in 2011.
>>>> I haven't sailed her in a couple years, and last visited her a few months
>> ago
>> to clean up the topside and lament my neglect. I stopped having a diver
>> do quarterly cleaning a year ago, and have been paying Brisbane $200/month
>> to do nothing with it. I'm sick of letting her rot at dock, and on the
>> last couple
>> of occasions I've put out feelers on my personal "friends" social network,
>> I
>> discovered who among my network felt no compunctions about wasting my
>> time.
>>>> So, I'm finally letting the Tuna fleet here know I'm giving her away,
>> "free"
>> (you all know what "free boat" means) to someone familiar with Tunas.
>>>> It has a Pineapple mainsail with one set of reef points put in by
>> Peninsula (yes, I
>> know, but we weren't planning to race the boat). Also a lightweight
>> spinnaker
>> and some other miscellaneous sail inventory.
>>>> The boat really needs a bottom job and, frankly, could really use
>> freeboard
>> and deck repaint as well.
>>>> I will be available on Saturday morning from 0800 when the Brisbane
>> harbormaster office opens. If you want this boat, show up, confirm you'll
>> take it, and I'll sign the title over to you in the harbormaster's office
>> after
>> they've approved your paperwork (which you will have downloaded and
>> filled out before heading down to see me; we'll coordinate)
>>>> No, I won't give the boat away and keep paying the dock fees; I don't want
>> to deal with the 30-day notice requirement (I called them just now and
>> confirmed that). You take the slip if you want the boat.
>>>> No, I won't part out the boat and give or sell you pieces like sail
>> inventory.
>> Don't ask.
>>>> Make this easy for me and the boat's yours.
>>>> Thanks, Russell
>>>> --
>> Russell Whitaker
>>http://twitter.com/OrthoNormalRuss>> _______________________________________________
>> Tuna mailing list
>>Tuna at myfleet.org>>http://myfleet.org/mailman/listinfo/tuna>>>>>>>>>> --
>> Russell Whitaker
>>http://twitter.com/OrthoNormalRuss>>http://www.linkedin.com/pub/russell-whitaker/0/b86/329>>>>>> ------------------------------
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