I like working on my boat too, but there's a limit to what I have time, $, space and tools to do. All boats need work, no worries about that, even the fixed up ones!
Are you Wicked's owner? I saw her in the yard at Berkekey getting bottom paint.
Kristy
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> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 12:53:45 -0700
> From: "Ted Macklin" <ctm47 at cox.net>
> To: <tuna at myfleet.org>
> Subject: [Santana 22] Free Boat
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>> Hi all,
> I would like to weigh in on this free boat conversation if I may. Few if any of you know me, but a couple of years ago I picked up on a Free Boat, and have been doing the extensive and complete restoration off and on since. I make no claims to expertise. The reason for this posting is not to encourage or discouraging anyone from taking on a project like mine, but to offer whatever I have learned to anyone who might benefit from the knowledge gained from my work on this boat. I got this boat for the learning, knowing full well that I might come up to the impossible and then I would have to junk the whole project and chalk it all up to experience. I can truly say that I am still enthusiastic about rebuilding my S22. (including a lot of work on the trailer.) I am currently about 85 to 90% completed.
> To detail all I have done is way more than could be posted here. What I would be willing to offer anyone contemplating such a journey as making the commitment to take on the free boat, is to be willing to share any of the things I have learned along the way. I have many photos taken during the course of this project, and I can relate what I came up against and how I dealt with the issues. I must also say I am not primarily interested in racing my boat. It is intended to be a safe little day sailor cruiser for my enjoyment. That enjoyment has already included doing a lot of work on the boat. It is a good feeling to stand back after a day of sanding and wet sloppy epoxy and know you succeeded and have done a good job. I will have a very nice boat to show for it when I'm done. I know I will never get back the money I have spent, does anyone? but I will have a very nice boat of proven design that I will enjoy for a long time and in the end it will probably cost far less than buying a
> new boat. This of course does not consider the hours spent, but I like what I see every time I look at my boat. What one gets out is what one puts in. If I can be of assistance to anyone with a decision to make or a problem to solve, send me an Email and we can talk. Again, I am not an expert by any means, but I now know far more than I ever thought possible and I would enjoy sharing the story. The Free Boat is definitely not for everyone, but maybe you are the right person to do it and if you are I can be here to help. Its been a great trip and I am winning the battle.
>> Sincerely
> Ted Macklin
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> From: Russell Whitaker <russell.whitaker at gmail.com>
> To: Ted Macklin <ctm47 at cox.net>
> Cc: "tuna at myfleet.org" <tuna at myfleet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Santana 22] Free Boat
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>> Thanks for weighing in on this, Ted, good perspective. I should add
> that I myself spent over a year
> and a half on a "free boat" - a 36' Yorktown - during which I spent
> man-months (between jobs and on
> the weekends) at Berkeley sanding a huge hull, glassing and epoxying
> hundreds of blisters, rebuilding
> the transom completely, reconditioning the diesel, and so many other
> things. I probably sunk > $20K into it
> (materials and dailyyard charges), and in the end, I ended up giving
> the boat - happily - to a kid who I hope
> finished the job and is living in it.
>> It was for this very reason that I neglected my perfectly good Santana
> 22: I *had no time to sail*, not
> on the Santana, not as crew on a friend's boat (a nicely set up Tartan
> 10), and I wanted no part of
> sailing for months. Took me a while to get over it all, and look at
> sailing again with fresh eyes.
>> So, I do want to get back into sailing, but I'd prefer a mid-sized
> Catalina, mostly for cruising.
>> And by the way, Kristy's post on the subject last night was
> exceedingly thorough and very useful.
> Yes, if someone's wanting to take my "free boat" and *race* it, you're
> going to have to put some money
> and sweat into it. If someone wants a day sailer, that's a different
> matter. That's really what I had in
> mind, and had assumed there was a broad audience in the readership of
> this mailing list.
>> Russell
>>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Ted Macklin <ctm47 at cox.net> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I would like to weigh in on this free boat conversation if I may. Few if
>> any of you know me, but a couple of years ago I picked up on a Free Boat,
>> and have been doing the extensive and complete restoration off and on since.
>> I make no claims to expertise. The reason for this posting is not to
>> encourage or discouraging anyone from taking on a project like mine, but to
>> offer whatever I have learned to anyone who might benefit from the knowledge
>> gained from my work on this boat. I got this boat for the learning, knowing
>> full well that I might come up to the impossible and then I would have to
>> junk the whole project and chalk it all up to experience. I can truly say
>> that I am still enthusiastic about rebuilding my S22. (including a lot of
>> work on the trailer.) I am currently about 85 to 90% completed.
>> To detail all I have done is way more than could be posted here. What I
>> would be willing to offer anyone contemplating such a journey as making the
>> commitment to take on the free boat, is to be willing to share any of the
>> things I have learned along the way. I have many photos taken during the
>> course of this project, and I can relate what I came up against and how I
>> dealt with the issues. I must also say I am not primarily interested in
>> racing my boat. It is intended to be a safe little day sailor cruiser for my
>> enjoyment. That enjoyment has already included doing a lot of work on the
>> boat. It is a good feeling to stand back after a day of sanding and wet
>> sloppy epoxy and know you succeeded and have done a good job. I will have a
>> very nice boat to show for it when I'm done. I know I will never get back
>> the money I have spent, does anyone? but I will have a very nice boat of
>> proven design that I will enjoy for a long time and in the end it will
>> probably cost far less than buying a new boat. This of course does not
>> consider the hours spent, but I like what I see every time I look at my
>> boat. What one gets out is what one puts in. If I can be of assistance to
>> anyone with a decision to make or a problem to solve, send me an Email and
>> we can talk. Again, I am not an expert by any means, but I now know far more
>> than I ever thought possible and I would enjoy sharing the story. The Free
>> Boat is definitely not for everyone, but maybe you are the right person to
>> do it and if you are I can be here to help. Its been a great trip and I am
>> winning the battle.
>>>> Sincerely
>> Ted Macklin
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