[Santana 22] Replacement Tuna rigging - Dyform or compacted wire, anyone?

Michael Sporer pasta514 at hotmail.com
Mon Mar 21 16:03:54 EDT 2016

Thats what I meant by 'nominal'.   I was told the 1/8" 1x19 has a larger 
diameter than a 1/8" compacted wire.  Let me google it. ...

oops, looks like I'm wrong based on: 
http://www.rigshop.com/site_pages/products/standing_rigging/wire.html
Just a couple datapoints, ... don't use this for your decision.
says 4mm compacted is ~same strength, 16% smaller diameter and 10% 
stretchier than 3/16 1x19 .
says 4mm compacted is ~same diameter, 30% stronger and 24% lower stretch 
than 5/32 1x19

why the stretch and strength differences are not the same doesn't make 
sense to me...


On 3/21/2016 10:59 AM, Michael Kennedy wrote:
> Won't the same diameter have the same wind resistance???
>
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> *From:* Michael Sporer <pasta514 at hotmail.com>
> *To:* tuna at myfleet.org
> *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 9:19 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Santana 22] Replacement Tuna rigging - Dyform or 
> compacted wire, anyone?
>
> I was under the impression that for a given nominal wire size the 
> compacted version had the same cross-section area of steel, same 
> strength, same weight and same stiffness, but had lower wind 
> resistance.  That way in a pinch you can swap between the two types 
> without worrying about any differences in the really important parameters.
>
>
>
> On 3/20/2016 11:02 PM, Jan Grygier wrote:
> Fellow Tuners,
> In a nasty blast a few weeks ago on the Bay, Carlos' mast suddenly 
> went sideways, outers parted at the top and inner at the bottom. 
> Amazingly mast is fine (and so are all the crew).  So I need to 
> replace Carlos' standing rigging, and someone suggested Dyform or 
> "compacted strand" wire.  They are both SS wire but pack a bit more 
> steel into the same diameter (I think) and are therefore somewhat 
> stronger and less stretchy.
>
> Does anyone have experience with either of these - or know whether 
> they are legal, for that matter?  For reference, this is what I see in 
> the current rules (first entry is in main body, second entry is in 
> checklist):
>
> 14.Wire rigging shall be of the same dimensions and materials as 
> supplied by factory except as to lower shrouds.Turnbuckles must be not 
> less than factory specifications as to dimensions and materials.No rod 
> rigging is permitted.It is suggested that boats sailing in heavy air 
> replace the factory supplied 5/32” lower shrouds with 3/16” wire.
> B.Standing Rigging
> 1.All rigging is 5/32” SS wire. Lower shrouds 3/16” max. No rod rigging
>
>
> Thanks much,
> Jan Grygier
> Carlos, Hull 320/sail 5020
>
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