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color=#0000ff size=2>Bonito's mast base is stock / unaltered / flat. It
sits on a cast aluminum male plug so, any uneven distribution of weight is
transferred through the plug's plate to the deck beneath it and not
directly to a smaller point of the deck. The mast both bends aft upwind
and rocks forward down, when the backstay is on with up to 900 pounds of pull
and eased off as far as the purchase system permits alternately. I think
it unnecessary to alter the mast base.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=419430723-11032009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Bonito's forestay is short of maximum, I believe by about
the inch and a half Jan recalls but, I honestly don't exactly. Anyway, her
helm is fairly neutral. More rake would hurt our down wind speed in my
opinion, which is our weaker point of sail, again in my opinion, so, I am pretty
satisfied with the current balance of things.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=419430723-11032009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Michael Andrews</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=419430723-11032009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>811 Bonito</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> tuna-bounces@myfleet.org
[mailto:tuna-bounces@myfleet.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jan
Grygier<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:46 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
tuna@myfleet.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Santana 22] Filing the mast
butt<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>I'm not going to get into the mast butt issue here, but I
do want to comment on forestay length. A few years ago the class increased
the max forestay length by 3" to 27' even (I think!, it's in the rules on
our website). This was because most Tunas had lee helm in most
conditions so people were always trying to get to max length, and that is the
hardest measurement to make (this happened while I was measurer). Carlos'
forestay is halfway between the old max and the new max, i.e. 26' 10.5" (or so),
and I think Michael Andrews set up Bonito the same way.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=060082815-11032009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>So depending on what sails you have and how much you like
to heel the boat in light to moderate air, the optimum length may be less than
max. I hope it is, because that's one of the reasons we changed the
rule. But Pariah beat me in Nationals two years ago, maybe Mike knows
better.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=060082815-11032009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Ernie and Michael, as duelling Nationals champions, do you
guys want to tell the rest of us how long your forestay is currently? No
pressure, of course...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>Jan Grygier, <SPAN
class=060082815-11032009>"Carlos"</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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href="mailto:hydrophilos@earthlink.net">hydrophilos@earthlink.net</A></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=060082815-11032009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>P.S.
Speaking of Nationals, we are getting to have some pretty hot new sailors up
here (I'm counting Mike in that list because he didn't sail much the last two
years), Nationals should have some very good competition. I know you all
know it's the last weekend in July (24-26) out of Corinthian YC, but an
occasional reminder never hurts.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> tuna-bounces@myfleet.org
[mailto:tuna-bounces@myfleet.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Michael
Kennedy<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:27 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
djmeyer16@yahoo.com; tuna@myfleet.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Santana 22] Filing
the mast butt<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Hi Derek</DIV>
<DIV>You want to file the aft part. That mast isn't going to bend much if
at all, and especially not because the footprint on the butt was made
smaller. All that will do is load up a smaller surface area at the back of
the butt, which is bad for the step and bad for your new mast and won't really
induce any bend.</DIV>
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<DIV>You want to file the aft end just a bit to make the footprint a little
bigger when the mast is raked aft, to ease the load on everything where the mast
and deck are in contact. You want max headstay length so the mast is raked
aft sailing upwind-shaving the aft end a little will help increase rake a little
and spread the load on the parts when load is highest (backsay tight, sails
sheeted in, etc.)</DIV>
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<DIV>Mike Kennedy</DIV>
<DIV>Pariah #146<BR></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Derek Meyer
<djmeyer16@yahoo.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
tuna@myfleet.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday,
March 10, 2009 10:53:55 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Santana 22] Filing the mast
butt<BR></FONT><BR><BR>Hi all,<BR>The weather is getting nice and Aquila is
getting close to being sailable again (well closer, who knew prepping a boat
bottom took a dog's age?)<BR><BR>Since the time is getting closer, I'm preparing
to put up my new mast (old one had a HUGE bend in the middle, looks like a
Frankenstein made from two other tuna masts). However, I've discovered a
discrepancy that makes me unsure which part of the mast butt to file
down:<BR><BR>From the John Skinner article: "In addition, you should unstep your
mast and file the forward part of the butt of the mast (1/8 inch is plenty) to
ensure that the mast bears on the aft edge. This helps to induce bend in
the mast in heavier winds when the backstay is tightened. "<BR><BR>However
according to the rules:<BR>"MAST. Butt rests firmly on the deck and bears the
force of the rig flat on the deck<BR>A maximum of 3/32” may be shaved off the
aft edge of the mast butt in order to<BR>promote the stability of a raked mast
under load (added 2003)"<BR><BR>So, clearly one of these is incorrect. Do
I want to file down the forward part of the mast or the aft part? Any
other advice you can give me on this is appreciated. Thanks!<BR><BR>-Derek
Meyer<BR>Aquila 28465<BR><BR><BR><BR>
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