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size=2 face=Arial>Hi Derek, Too bad you'll miss Pumpkin this
year.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial>To clarify the "same body of water" thing, the class has
sometimes alternated Bay area with Monterey, then added Santa Cruz, and
sometimes moved around the Bay to different locations in consecutive
years. While all waters are connected, the Knox course and central Bay/TI
course (what EYC would use for Nationals) have different wind and wave patterns,
and different tidal influences; Bay sailors consider them "different courses",
whereas a Knox race run by CYC or SYC are the same course.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=208253604-21102009><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>So my interpretation is Knox and Central Bay are indeed
"different bodies of water" as far as Nationals rules go. If the drafters
had meant not hosted by the same fleet twice in a row (entire Bay area is Fleet
1), they would have said so.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=208253604-21102009><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>But if anybody out there disagrees with me, please chime
in!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>Jan Grygier, <SPAN
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Derek Meyer [mailto:djmeyer16@yahoo.com]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:20 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Michael
Andrews; hydrophilos@earthlink.net; S22 Santana22 List; Michael
Kennedy<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Santana 22] Great Pumpkin - 5 boats and counting
(Oct 24-25)<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<TD vAlign=top>Ditto, barring any unforeseen scheduling conflicts Aquila
would race non-spin (well, she would race spin if she had the
equipment!) <BR><BR>We would have loved to race Great Pumpkin again
this year (we had a blast last year, everyone owes it to themselves to
enter this regatta!) however I will unfortunately be out of
town.<BR><BR>As an aside, forgive my ignorance, but is the Estuary not
considered the same body of water as the bay? I ask because it was
my impression that the rules forbade racing Nationals twice in row in the
same body of water. Not that I was necessarily looking forward to
towing my tuna down to Monterey, I am just looking for
clarification. Thanks!<BR><BR>Derek<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 10/20/09,
Michael Kennedy <I><michaelkennedy05@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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Michael Kennedy <michaelkennedy05@yahoo.com><BR>Subject: Re:
[Santana 22] Great Pumpkin - 5 boats and counting (Oct 24-25)<BR>To:
"Michael Andrews" <Michael.Andrews@portsamerica.com>,
"hydrophilos@earthlink.net" <hydrophilos@earthlink.net>, "S22
Santana22 List" <tuna@myfleet.org><BR>Date: Tuesday, October 20,
2009, 11:15 AM<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Pariah would do the Encinal series if it's non-spin (except that
the first one conflicts with another sailing commitment). I agree
it would be a good way to visit the Nationals race track a few
times.<BR></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Michael Andrews
<Michael.Andrews@portsamerica.com><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> "hydrophilos@earthlink.net"
<hydrophilos@earthlink.net>; S22 Santana22 List
<tuna@myfleet.org><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tue, October 20, 2009 7:30:20
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[Santana 22] Great Pumpkin - 5 boats and counting (Oct
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Encinal Yacht
Club has extended an invitation to the Santana 22 Fleet to participate
in the Jack Frost series this winter, which will be run in the same
racing area that the Nationals will be next summer. Applying the
same logic that led many of us to sail the Sausalito mid-winter series
last year, we might choose to accept Encinal’s invitation this
year. We could agree to race spinnaker or plain
sails.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Michael
Andrews</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">811
Bonito</SPAN></FONT></P>
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tuna-bounces@myfleet.org [mailto:tuna-bounces@myfleet.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Jan
Grygier<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday,
October 19, 2009 10:51 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> S22 Santana22 List<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Santana 22] Great Pumpkin
- 5 boats and counting (Oct 24-25)</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">We have 5 boats signed up
for Saturday, so we get our own start - won't you join us? What
looks like mellow buoy racing with spinnakers (based on wx forecast),
followed by free beer and a fantastic party. Then wake up and go
searching for pumpkins (perferably with yours or someone else's kids) in
the Great Pumpkin Pursuit (race).</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Go to <A
href="http://www.richmondyc.org/" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>www.richmondyc.org</A> and follow the
links.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">BTW do we want to try for
two winter series this year? Say Sausalito YC non-spinnaker
(Sundays starting Nov 1), and Encinal Jack Frost spinnaker (Saturdays,
around mid-month)?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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Grygier, "Carlos"</SPAN></FONT></P>
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