<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">It’s legal I swear! :)<div>Straight up 5/32 and 3/16 from Steve Seal courtesy of a certain Beneteau 36.7.</div><div><div>
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<br><div><div>On May 27, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Garth Copenhaver <<a href="mailto:lodrosangbo@hotmail.com">lodrosangbo@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="auto"><div>Jan, </div><div>I'm sincerely hoping I'm mistaken and I have 5/16 on the uppers. Ill check this weekend. Stephen Buckingham must have gotten it right when he replaced the wires in 2007. </div><div>Thanks!<br>Garth Copenhaver<div>415-450-0843</div></div><div><br>On May 27, 2014, at 9:54 PM, "Jan Grygier" <<a href="mailto:hydrophilos@earthlink.net">hydrophilos@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite">
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Garth, are you sure about your shroud diameters? My interpretation
of the class rules is the uppers should be 5/16th (see page 23 in
the class rules on the <a href="http://santana22.com/static/clsrules.pdf">class web site</a>,
item 35):<br>
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Wire rigging shall be of the same dimensions and materials as
supplied by factory <br>
except as to lower shrouds. Turnbuckles must be not less than
factory <br>
specifications as to dimensions and materials. No rod rigging is
permitted. It is <br>
suggested that boats sailing in heavy air replace the factory
supplied 5/32” lower <br>
shrouds with 3/16” wire.<br>
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To be clear, I am not accusing you of being out of compliance (let
alone deliberately), just wondering if your uppers and lowers are
indeed both 3/16ths.<br>
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Anybody else have fat uppers (or an opinion on the measurement
rule)?<br>
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Jan Grygier,<br>
Carlos<br>
Past measurer, Fleet 1<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/27/2014 9:32 PM, Garth Copenhaver
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<pre wrap="">Your welcome, Silas. I have 3/16" wire on both the uppers and lowers. I would be interested to know how much shroud tension others use (?).
Warmly, Garth
Garth Copenhaver
415-450-0843
On May 27, 2014, at 9:03 PM, "Silas Boyd-Wickizer" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:silasbw@gmail.com"><silasbw@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Thanks Garth!
Do you have 3/16 on the lowers and 5/32 on the uppers?
Silas
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Garth Copenhaver
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<pre wrap="">Hi Silas,
Oreo goes with about 480 lbs on the uppers and 380lbs on the lowers for the summer breezes. These pounds relate to the pounds of tension prior to loads. On the Loos B gauge this is 22 on the uppers and 18 on the lowers. For the NAs I went up to 25 on the uppers for the 25 knot plus breezes.
The lowers seem to always be slack when healing so I would not use that "heuristic" for the lowers. I find that a good rule is to make sure that you have some slight bend back in the mast and make sure you do not have inverted bend (bend forward).
Regards,
Garth
Garth Copenhaver
415-450-0843
On May 27, 2014, at 2:31 PM, "Silas Boyd-Wickizer" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:silasbw@gmail.com"><silasbw@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi,
I'm tinkering with the shroud tension on dayspring. I've read and
heard contradictory advice on what good tension is for racing a
Santana 22. Can anyone share qualitative or quantitative tips that
they use? Is the heuristic "leeward shrouds shouldn't be slack when
close hauled" a good one to use? Does anyone know approximately how
many pounds this corresponds to?
Hope to see you all this Saturday,
Silas
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