And they wonder why more women don't sail - in the one condition where
most kick butt (myself excluded) they are penalized!
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From: sfv15-bounces at myfleet.org [mailto:sfv15-bounces at myfleet.org] On
Behalf Of sarah deeds
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 4:00 PM
To: Natasha Baker
Cc: lstephan at alumni.upenn.edu; sfv15 at myfleet.org
Subject: Re: Team Racing
making light teams carry weight seems like crap to me..maybe we should
make heavy teams carry weight on the low side in heavy air...to make
things fair.
On 9/12/06, Natasha Baker <natashabaker at hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,
The Bay Area Babes are back from the Hinman! We'd like to thank eveyone
who helped us prepare to compete- especially Kevin Richards, Holt
Condon, Dave Kenny, Sarah Deeds, Alex Mountjoy and Blaine Pedlow! We
had to carry 150 pounds of water to make the weight minimum, didn't get
last and as it turns out were the first all-womens team at the Hinman.
Results, cool photos and some podcasts are at
http://www.ussailing.org/championships/adult/ustrc/
We also learned that there's a lot of support at the national level to
get and keep women in team racing. So the Bay Area Babes will be
putting together a standing womens' team for some upcoming team race
events over the next year. Please email me with your contact
info/whether you want to skipper or crew/your size/and general team race
experience. There is also an interest at the national level in keeping
the west coast team racing going so please contact me, Kevin or Holt if
you want to be added to the team racing list emails as we will need
people to practice against!!!
Thanks again for everyone's help!
Natasha Baker
(415) 596-0143
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From: "sally madsen" < sailsally at gmail.com
<mailto:sailsally at gmail.com> >
To: sfv15 at myfleet.org
Subject: Re: Rules Question, Answered
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:54:34 -0700
Here's another look at the windward mark situation, courtesy of
Jim.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jim Barkow < <mailto:jim.barkow at gmail.com>
jim.barkow at gmail.com
>
Date: Jul 28, 2006 4:03 PM
Subject: Duck, Duck...???
To: vanguard15 at list.sailingsource.com
Room to Duck?
Guys- wanted to follow up on the discussion last night about
boats coming into the starboard tack boats at the mark.
This issue in question: Room to tack vs Room to Duck? who has
rights???
Rules
Questions:
Simple Answer: If there
is overlap from the Port Windward to Port Leeward boat, then the
PW
boat has room to duck. If there is no overlap, then PL can call
for
room to tack and tack, as long as there is enough time for the
PW to
keep clear, by tacking or ducking. If the PL boat ducks without
any
hail, they still have to give room for the PW to duck as well.
Logic: (or lack there of)
18.2 (a) Giving Room; Keeping Clear
OVERLAPPED - BASIC RULE
a. When boats are overlapped the outside boat (PL) shall give
the inside boat
(PW) room to round or pass the mark or obstruction, and if the
inside boat has
right of way the outside boat shall also keep clear. Other
parts of rule 18
contain exceptions to this rule.
Then we look to the definition of Obstruction:
Obstruction An object that a boat could not pass without
changing course
substantially, if she were sailing directly towards it and one
of her hull lengths from it.
An object that can be safely passed on only one side and an area
so designated by the
sailing instructions are also obstructions. However, a boat
racing is not an obstruction
to other boats unless they are required to keep clear of her (as
in the case of Port Starboard), give her room or, if rule 21
applies, avoid her.
If no Overlap:
- Rule 15 requires the boat that acquires right-of-way to give
enough
space to the other boat to act promptly in a seamanlike way in
the
prevailing conditions to keep clear.
JB Editorial:
First of all, it's never
realistic to say 'stop coming in from port'. Our courses are
short, and
getting shorter. We have 20 boats on the line and the starboard
most
starting boat tends to hold onto the controlling position as
long as
possible- especially because our wind has consistently been 5-7
degrees
farther south than normal. So inevitably, a first row starter on
the
port end is almost always going to be 2 tacking the 1st beat.
It's not
their fault- no one ever wants to get into that situation- it
happens.
(It's also been strange that poor starts have been rewarded with
the
chance to do an early duck of the starboard boats and get out
the right
side early- I think Teddy and AJ lived off that last night...)
Things to Sail by:
1) avoid collisions
2) standard Hails:
"Room to Duck" - hailed by PW boat when overlapped and needing
to Duck. Assumes there is overlap.
"Starboard Boat- Tacking"- hailed by PL boat with ample time
for PW to react
"No- NEED TO TACK!!!!" -
hailed by PL boat, regardless of rights, to avoid collision due
to
boats PW does not see, wind shift, etc... this hail trumps all.
remember, these boats can tack in about 1-2 seconds, and less
than a
boat length- on a average night. In this situation, in my
opinion,
'slow tacks' are not a reasonable excuse.
2) be vocal, early and
often. If you see the situation happening, start
talking early. If you were fouled, be vocal and clear, never
personal.
The person to blame usually becomes clear. If there are boat(s)
above
you, you must hail early so everyone knows you have to tack.
3) if you are starboard, think about 'defending your lane ' (not
hunting) to give yourself a little gap. What this means is, if
you are
are close to layline, and you see a port boat approaching that
is going
to tack short or lee bow you, bear off slightly- 5-10 degrees or
so, to
build up speed. 2 things will happen- either the port boat will
think
that you angle is poor and he can't tack there to still make it
so
he'll duck you, or if he does tack, you will have speed and
angle to
separate yourself from them and sail around them. Very effective
if
there are more boats on port, inside.
4) angles change quickly at the weather mark. The last 100 yards
is the
shiftiest part of our course by far- it ridiculous at times how
fast
the angles change. Don't assume you can cross someone. But
remember this rule:
Rule 16.1: When a right-of-way boat changes course, she shall
give the other boat room to keep clear.
Rule 16.2: In addition, when after the starting signal a
port-tack
boat is keeping clear by sailing to pass astern of a
starboard-tack boat,
the starboard-tack boat shall not change course if as a
result the port-tack
boat would immediately need to change course to continue
keeping clear.
This clears a port boat that was crossing a starboard boat in
the event
of sudden wind shift and requires the starboard boat to keep
clear.
<http://www.ussailing.org/member/library/urrs20041110.htm>
<http://www.ussailing.org/member/library/urrs20041110.htm>
http://www.ussailing.org/member/library/urrs20041110.htm
- so you can't head up into a boat in a huge shift without
giving them room to be clear.
Other rules of Interest:
<http://www.ussailing.org/member/library/urrs20041110.htm>
Tacking inside the 2 boat circle:
http://www.ussailing.org/championships/youth/youthchamp//2004/da_rulz.as
p
<http://www.ussailing.org/championships/youth/youthchamp/2004/da_rulz.as
p>
Overview w diagrams:
http://www.ussailing.org/championships/youth/youthchamp//2002/graphics/d
p2.gif
<http://www.ussailing.org/championships/youth/youthchamp/2002/graphics/d
p2.gif>
How well do you know the rules?
http://www.speedandsmarts.com/Rules_Test/87_Rules_IQ_Test.pdf
Feel free to correct me if or comment as needed. See ya all this
weekend!!!
--
Jim Barkow
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