[Santana 22] Dry Storage

Bill Murphy capnbill at lmi.net
Sat Dec 13 14:07:43 EST 2008

I also go to BMC with my Santana 22, and have found it quite satisfactory.



At 10:32 AM 12/13/2008, Mark Lowry wrote:

>On the question of DIY boatyards --
>
>I have taken both my Express 27 and Pretorien 35 to Berkeley Marine Center,
>recently.  If you are somewhat patient you can get reasonable technical
>advice from some of the folks there, the price is right, and they have an
>adequate store for most supplies.  It's a bit funky and their connection to
>the city of Berkeley can be a pain at times though.  They do actually build
>custom boats there, so they do have expertise.
>
>I can only compare BMC to Svendsen's (have hauled there many, many times)
>and KKMI (did some work on my Express there).  In my opinion KKMI does great
>work, but they cost WAY TOO MUCH (at least for me).  Svendsen's is not as
>good as they used to be, and they cost too much for what you get.  So, for
>me BMC is the best value especially for DIY.   I expect to go there again,
>the next time I need to haul either boat.  Svendsen's would be second
>choice, though.
>
>Mark Lowry
>ex-Soliton, sail #5084 (hull #584)
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Derek Meyer" <djmeyer16 at yahoo.com>
>To: "Nancy & Pat Broderick" <broderic at sonic.net>
>Cc: <tuna at myfleet.org>
>Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 8:18 PM
>Subject: Re: [Santana 22] Dry Storage
>
>
> > Hey Pat,
> > I called Schoonmaker on Wednesday and the receptionist said that the
> > Harbor Master would have to call me back, as she did not know those sorts
> > of details.  On Thursday I called again and left a message.  On Friday I
> > called yet again and this time got to talk to the assistant Harbor Master
> > who said that they don't have any room for a boat that big.  Honestly, he
> > did not sound very convincing.  Furthermore, I was thoroughly un-impressed
> > with the customer service, and honestly would have mentioned it if they
> > weren't the only gig in town.
> >
> > Anyway, that idea is beginning to look more and more dead as we speak.  I
> > talked to the Harbormaster at SFYC and he said he was going to make some
> > phone calls about getting me a spot in Sausalito; we'll see.
> >
> > I also talked to the RYC harbormaster who said a spot is opening up in
> > January, but as a non-member I could be booted at any time if a member
> > needed a spot.  I could of course join the club (where I was a member for
> > many years as a junior), but honestly I need another yacht club membership
> > like I need a hole in the head!
> >
> > Anyway, because it looks like it could be some time before I make the jump
> > to dry sailing, I have to pull the boat and do the bottom.  Where should I
> > pull the boat?  I was thinking Anderson's but they don;t allow any sanding
> > or strippers.  I was planning on using the Franmar Soy stripper,
> > grinding/fairing the keel, then painting a couple of coats of Petit
> > Trinidad SR.
> >
> > Any critiques on my current plan are welcome,as well as DIY boatyard
> > recommendations.  I'm currently thinking Bay Marine in Richmond.  Thanks!
> >
> > -Derek
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 12/12/08, Nancy & Pat Broderick <broderic at sonic.net> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Nancy & Pat Broderick <broderic at sonic.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Santana 22] Dry Storage
> >> To: djmeyer16 at yahoo.com
> >> Cc: tuna at myfleet.org
> >> Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 7:46 PM
> >> Derek,
> >>
> >> Check with Leah Pepe or Jim Doyle.  Leah's sailing my
> >> ex-boat that I kept on a trailer down at Schoonmaker Marina
> >> for 5 years. I think Jim's planning on putting his boat
> >> up there.  Give Schoonmaker a call.  They have storage and a
> >> 3-ton hoist.  Use my name; I said I'd recommend them to
> >> my friends.
> >>
> >> I think keeping a racing Tuna on a trailer is the only way
> >> to go.  No bottom work (polish it and you're set for the
> >> season).  Dry boat.  Lower weight (I think a Santana soaks
> >> up several hundred pounds of water). Much less wear and tear
> >> on the hull and rigging (no constant rocking).
> >>
> >> The negative is hoisting in and out. It took me about 45
> >> minutes on each end of a trip.  Sometimes there was a wait
> >> for the lift if more than 1 boat was going racing that day,
> >> but that meant there were plenty of willing hands to help
> >> out since they were waiting, too.
> >>
> >> I could leave the boat tied to the lift dock overnight if I
> >> was sailing 2 days.
> >>
> >> The other negative is you're considered a "storage
> >> guy" so don't get a key to the nice heads/showers.
> >>
> >> If you're into frequent day-trip recreational sailing
> >> adventures a berth might be a better choice.
> >>
> >> Let me know if I can help.
> >>
> >> Pat
> >> "NANCY" Wyliecat #28890
> >>
> >> If the hoist at Schoonmaker could take my Wyliecat (5500#
> >> plus gear) I'd probably opt for keeping it on a trailer.
> >> On Dec 12, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Derek Meyer wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hello all,
> >> > I am considering putting Aquila on a trailer and dry
> >> sailing her.  I have a few questions about this:
> >> > 1)where can you store a boat that has a crane?  My
> >> Y.C.s have extremely long waiting lists.  I would prefer to
> >> be in Sausalito but I'm willing to go to the East Bay or
> >> possibly the city as well.
> >> > 2)if you store somewhere without a crane, how hard is
> >> it to put up the mast and take it down?
> >> > 3)If you store somewhere without a hoist, where do you
> >> put your boat in the water?  Is it possible to use a
> >> launching ramp?
> >> > 4)is a significant advantage gained by dry sailing a
> >> boat?  I figure it would be cheaper than berth fees and
> >> would eliminate the costly act of pulling the boat every
> >> year/painting it/possibly having to refair the keel.
> >> >
> >> > I welcome all thoughts, and thank you in advance
> >> > Derek
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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