On the question of DIY boatyards --
I have taken both my Express 27 and Pretorien 35 to Berkeley Marine Center,
recently. If you are somewhat patient you can get reasonable technical
advice from some of the folks there, the price is right, and they have an
adequate store for most supplies. It's a bit funky and their connection to
the city of Berkeley can be a pain at times though. They do actually build
custom boats there, so they do have expertise.
I can only compare BMC to Svendsen's (have hauled there many, many times)
and KKMI (did some work on my Express there). In my opinion KKMI does great
work, but they cost WAY TOO MUCH (at least for me). Svendsen's is not as
good as they used to be, and they cost too much for what you get. So, for
me BMC is the best value especially for DIY. I expect to go there again,
the next time I need to haul either boat. Svendsen's would be second
choice, though.
Mark Lowry
ex-Soliton, sail #5084 (hull #584)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Meyer" <djmeyer16 at yahoo.com>
To: "Nancy & Pat Broderick" <broderic at sonic.net>
Cc: <tuna at myfleet.org>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Santana 22] Dry Storage
> Hey Pat,
> I called Schoonmaker on Wednesday and the receptionist said that the
> Harbor Master would have to call me back, as she did not know those sorts
> of details. On Thursday I called again and left a message. On Friday I
> called yet again and this time got to talk to the assistant Harbor Master
> who said that they don't have any room for a boat that big. Honestly, he
> did not sound very convincing. Furthermore, I was thoroughly un-impressed
> with the customer service, and honestly would have mentioned it if they
> weren't the only gig in town.
>> Anyway, that idea is beginning to look more and more dead as we speak. I
> talked to the Harbormaster at SFYC and he said he was going to make some
> phone calls about getting me a spot in Sausalito; we'll see.
>> I also talked to the RYC harbormaster who said a spot is opening up in
> January, but as a non-member I could be booted at any time if a member
> needed a spot. I could of course join the club (where I was a member for
> many years as a junior), but honestly I need another yacht club membership
> like I need a hole in the head!
>> Anyway, because it looks like it could be some time before I make the jump
> to dry sailing, I have to pull the boat and do the bottom. Where should I
> pull the boat? I was thinking Anderson's but they don;t allow any sanding
> or strippers. I was planning on using the Franmar Soy stripper,
> grinding/fairing the keel, then painting a couple of coats of Petit
> Trinidad SR.
>> Any critiques on my current plan are welcome,as well as DIY boatyard
> recommendations. I'm currently thinking Bay Marine in Richmond. Thanks!
>> -Derek
>>>> --- On Fri, 12/12/08, Nancy & Pat Broderick <broderic at sonic.net> wrote:
>>> From: Nancy & Pat Broderick <broderic at sonic.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Santana 22] Dry Storage
>> To: djmeyer16 at yahoo.com>> Cc: tuna at myfleet.org>> Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 7:46 PM
>> Derek,
>>>> Check with Leah Pepe or Jim Doyle. Leah's sailing my
>> ex-boat that I kept on a trailer down at Schoonmaker Marina
>> for 5 years. I think Jim's planning on putting his boat
>> up there. Give Schoonmaker a call. They have storage and a
>> 3-ton hoist. Use my name; I said I'd recommend them to
>> my friends.
>>>> I think keeping a racing Tuna on a trailer is the only way
>> to go. No bottom work (polish it and you're set for the
>> season). Dry boat. Lower weight (I think a Santana soaks
>> up several hundred pounds of water). Much less wear and tear
>> on the hull and rigging (no constant rocking).
>>>> The negative is hoisting in and out. It took me about 45
>> minutes on each end of a trip. Sometimes there was a wait
>> for the lift if more than 1 boat was going racing that day,
>> but that meant there were plenty of willing hands to help
>> out since they were waiting, too.
>>>> I could leave the boat tied to the lift dock overnight if I
>> was sailing 2 days.
>>>> The other negative is you're considered a "storage
>> guy" so don't get a key to the nice heads/showers.
>>>> If you're into frequent day-trip recreational sailing
>> adventures a berth might be a better choice.
>>>> Let me know if I can help.
>>>> Pat
>> "NANCY" Wyliecat #28890
>>>> If the hoist at Schoonmaker could take my Wyliecat (5500#
>> plus gear) I'd probably opt for keeping it on a trailer.
>> On Dec 12, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Derek Meyer wrote:
>>>> > Hello all,
>> > I am considering putting Aquila on a trailer and dry
>> sailing her. I have a few questions about this:
>> > 1)where can you store a boat that has a crane? My
>> Y.C.s have extremely long waiting lists. I would prefer to
>> be in Sausalito but I'm willing to go to the East Bay or
>> possibly the city as well.
>> > 2)if you store somewhere without a crane, how hard is
>> it to put up the mast and take it down?
>> > 3)If you store somewhere without a hoist, where do you
>> put your boat in the water? Is it possible to use a
>> launching ramp?
>> > 4)is a significant advantage gained by dry sailing a
>> boat? I figure it would be cheaper than berth fees and
>> would eliminate the costly act of pulling the boat every
>> year/painting it/possibly having to refair the keel.
>> >
>> > I welcome all thoughts, and thank you in advance
>> > Derek
>> >
>> >
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