[Santana 22] Dry Storage

Logan Jager jagtek at berkeley.edu
Sat Dec 13 00:07:38 EST 2008

Whatever you, for the love of god, do not touch that keel with a  
grinder. Trust me. Just sand it down and take the surfboard shaper's  
strategy and get it so it looks like it might go fast through the  
water. I got advice from Tom Schock not to grind down the keel and I  
didn't listen to him and it turned into a massive hornet's nest on my  
old boat. Short of bolting on a new keel from Schock, I don't think it  
makes a difference at all.  If it is rusting, sand off the rust and  
paint it with POR-15, and then paint over with epoxy. No exceptions,  
that POR stuff is amazing.  The problem is the mass of cast iron looks  
NOTHING like a keel fin, it looks more like elephantitus.

As far as dry storage goes, treasure island sailing center (not ti  
marina) is centrally located and moderately priced. It is windy like  
winter in chicago, so your boat gets real dirty, but it might be a  
good interem solution until you find a permanent spot. The lease is  
month to month and there are always openings. The hoist, like most  
facilities is probably going to snap off in the water at some point,  
and I'm no math guy, but the odds of your boat being on it at the time  
are probably low. I think.

Hope this helps.

Logan

Former owner of Return of the Vegetables!


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On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:18 PM, Derek Meyer <djmeyer16 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hey Pat,
> I called Schoonmaker on Wednesday and the receptionist said that the  
> Harbor Master would have to call me back, as she did not know those  
> sorts of details.  On Thursday I called again and left a message.   
> On Friday I called yet again and this time got to talk to the  
> assistant Harbor Master who said that they don't have any room for a  
> boat that big.  Honestly, he did not sound very convincing.   
> Furthermore, I was thoroughly un-impressed with the customer  
> service, and honestly would have mentioned it if they weren't the  
> only gig in town.
>
> Anyway, that idea is beginning to look more and more dead as we  
> speak.  I talked to the Harbormaster at SFYC and he said he was  
> going to make some phone calls about getting me a spot in Sausalito;  
> we'll see.
>
> I also talked to the RYC harbormaster who said a spot is opening up  
> in January, but as a non-member I could be booted at any time if a  
> member needed a spot.  I could of course join the club (where I was  
> a member for many years as a junior), but honestly I need another  
> yacht club membership like I need a hole in the head!
>
> Anyway, because it looks like it could be some time before I make  
> the jump to dry sailing, I have to pull the boat and do the bottom.   
> Where should I pull the boat?  I was thinking Anderson's but they  
> don;t allow any sanding or strippers.  I was planning on using the  
> Franmar Soy stripper, grinding/fairing the keel, then painting a  
> couple of coats of Petit Trinidad SR.
>
> Any critiques on my current plan are welcome,as well as DIY boatyard  
> recommendations.  I'm currently thinking Bay Marine in Richmond.   
> Thanks!
>
> -Derek
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 12/12/08, Nancy & Pat Broderick <broderic at sonic.net>  
> wrote:
>
>> From: Nancy & Pat Broderick <broderic at sonic.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Santana 22] Dry Storage
>> To: djmeyer16 at yahoo.com
>> Cc: tuna at myfleet.org
>> Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 7:46 PM
>> Derek,
>>
>> Check with Leah Pepe or Jim Doyle.  Leah's sailing my
>> ex-boat that I kept on a trailer down at Schoonmaker Marina
>> for 5 years. I think Jim's planning on putting his boat
>> up there.  Give Schoonmaker a call.  They have storage and a
>> 3-ton hoist.  Use my name; I said I'd recommend them to
>> my friends.
>>
>> I think keeping a racing Tuna on a trailer is the only way
>> to go.  No bottom work (polish it and you're set for the
>> season).  Dry boat.  Lower weight (I think a Santana soaks
>> up several hundred pounds of water). Much less wear and tear
>> on the hull and rigging (no constant rocking).
>>
>> The negative is hoisting in and out. It took me about 45
>> minutes on each end of a trip.  Sometimes there was a wait
>> for the lift if more than 1 boat was going racing that day,
>> but that meant there were plenty of willing hands to help
>> out since they were waiting, too.
>>
>> I could leave the boat tied to the lift dock overnight if I
>> was sailing 2 days.
>>
>> The other negative is you're considered a "storage
>> guy" so don't get a key to the nice heads/showers.
>>
>> If you're into frequent day-trip recreational sailing
>> adventures a berth might be a better choice.
>>
>> Let me know if I can help.
>>
>> Pat
>> "NANCY" Wyliecat #28890
>>
>> If the hoist at Schoonmaker could take my Wyliecat (5500#
>> plus gear) I'd probably opt for keeping it on a trailer.
>> On Dec 12, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Derek Meyer wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I am considering putting Aquila on a trailer and dry
>> sailing her.  I have a few questions about this:
>>> 1)where can you store a boat that has a crane?  My
>> Y.C.s have extremely long waiting lists.  I would prefer to
>> be in Sausalito but I'm willing to go to the East Bay or
>> possibly the city as well.
>>> 2)if you store somewhere without a crane, how hard is
>> it to put up the mast and take it down?
>>> 3)If you store somewhere without a hoist, where do you
>> put your boat in the water?  Is it possible to use a
>> launching ramp?
>>> 4)is a significant advantage gained by dry sailing a
>> boat?  I figure it would be cheaper than berth fees and
>> would eliminate the costly act of pulling the boat every
>> year/painting it/possibly having to refair the keel.
>>>
>>> I welcome all thoughts, and thank you in advance
>>> Derek
>>>
>>>
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