[Santana 22] rig tension tips

Stephen Buckingham buckingham at sonic.net
Wed May 28 11:01:13 EDT 2014

It’s legal I swear! :)
Straight up 5/32 and 3/16 from Steve Seal courtesy of a certain Beneteau 36.7.
stephen buckingham
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On May 27, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Garth Copenhaver <lodrosangbo at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Jan, 
> I'm sincerely hoping I'm mistaken and I have 5/16 on the uppers. Ill check this weekend. Stephen Buckingham must have gotten it right when he replaced the wires in 2007. 
> Thanks!
> Garth Copenhaver
> 415-450-0843
> 
> On May 27, 2014, at 9:54 PM, "Jan Grygier" <hydrophilos at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>> Garth, are you sure about your shroud diameters?  My interpretation of the class rules is the uppers should be 5/16th (see page 23 in the class rules on the class web site, item 35):
>> 
>> Wire rigging shall be of the same dimensions and materials as supplied by factory 
>> except as to lower shrouds. Turnbuckles must be not less than factory 
>> specifications as to dimensions and materials. No rod rigging is permitted. It is 
>> suggested that boats sailing in heavy air replace the factory supplied 5/32” lower 
>> shrouds with 3/16” wire.
>> 
>> To be clear, I am not accusing you of being out of compliance (let alone deliberately), just wondering if your uppers and lowers are indeed both 3/16ths.
>> 
>> Anybody else have fat uppers (or an opinion on the measurement rule)?
>> 
>> Jan Grygier,
>> Carlos
>> Past measurer, Fleet 1
>> 
>> On 5/27/2014 9:32 PM, Garth Copenhaver wrote:
>>> Your welcome, Silas. I have 3/16" wire on both the uppers and lowers. I would be interested to know how much shroud  tension others use (?).
>>> Warmly, Garth
>>> 
>>> Garth Copenhaver
>>> 415-450-0843
>>> 
>>> On May 27, 2014, at 9:03 PM, "Silas Boyd-Wickizer" <silasbw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks Garth!
>>>> 
>>>> Do you have 3/16 on the lowers and 5/32 on the uppers?
>>>> 
>>>> Silas
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Garth Copenhaver
>>>> <lodrosangbo at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Silas,
>>>>> Oreo goes with about 480 lbs on the uppers and 380lbs on the lowers for the summer breezes. These pounds relate to the pounds of tension prior to  loads. On the Loos B gauge this is 22 on the uppers and 18 on the lowers. For the NAs I went up to 25 on the uppers for the 25 knot plus breezes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The lowers seem to always be slack when healing so I would not use that "heuristic" for the lowers. I find that a good rule is to make sure that you have some slight bend back in the mast and make sure you do not have inverted bend (bend forward).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Garth
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Garth Copenhaver
>>>>> 415-450-0843
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 27, 2014, at 2:31 PM, "Silas Boyd-Wickizer" <silasbw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm tinkering with the shroud tension on dayspring.  I've read and
>>>>>> heard contradictory advice on what good tension is for racing a
>>>>>> Santana 22.  Can anyone share qualitative or quantitative tips that
>>>>>> they use?  Is the heuristic "leeward shrouds shouldn't be slack when
>>>>>> close hauled" a good one to use?  Does anyone know approximately how
>>>>>> many pounds this corresponds to?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope to see you all this Saturday,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Silas
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